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268:(which turned up nothing outside of the sources used here) shows that the absolute bottom of the barrel was scraped to find sources even tangentially related to Groth ("tangentially related" would even be a generous description of some of the sources). For example, four of the 11 sources are listicles from ScreenRant (borderline blog spam articles) that, in case of the second one for example, have one single item out of 10 being a screenshot of a meme posted to MandJTV's subreddit (not even made or posted by Groth himself) but zero mention of MandJTV; the only text about MandJTV in the article is the data pulled from the Reddit API which reads "r/MandJTV". 443:, the coverage appear to be routine and trivial, in merely a few short paragraphs. Similarly, the Business Insider articles, which is generally reliable for its culture section but marginally reliable otherwise (I'm unsure if media articles are culture ones) cover routine subscriber and revenue details along with a few interview-like quotes, falling into a minor story per 279:
interview from Groth placed among several other terse interviews with YouTubers within the same article, not to mention the fact that it has nothing to do with Groth himself as a subject and is instead a story about a drop in ad revenue among YouTube creators.
258:. The three sources actually about this article's subject are two small human interest stories from a local news station (KPRC) and another small human interest story from the university he attends (neither of which, I'll add, are 219: 83: 487:
I was not aware that interviews were not considered independent. I'll be more careful about sourcing in the future. I agree the page should be deleted since there aren't independent sources.
314:(a source which covers such important topics on its front page as "4 best organic babyface turns from the Triple H era of WWE so far") regurgitating verbatim Groth's opinions on BDSP. 397: 176: 393: 343:
Noting for the record that the prior Michael Groth AfD was about a completely unrelated subject and is of no relevance here, despite its automatic inclusion by the AfD script.
401: 213: 78: 405: 423:. I concur with the nom's detailed analysis that the references are poor. The first two references are routine interview-like coverage that does not seem to pass 108: 123: 322:, whether intentionally or not, to, respectively, give the subject a facade of notability or to pad out what would otherwise be a four-sentence stub. 389: 428: 522:, screen rant isn't appropriate for demonstrating notability. The other sources also have issues with independence and/or reliability. 103: 96: 17: 149: 144: 153: 548: 531: 510: 496: 480: 414: 378: 354: 337: 63: 300:
Three ScreenRant blog spam listicles about memes that have (I cannot emphasize this enough) literally nothing to do with Groth.
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did not find sources that could demonstrate notability, only trivial mentions or non-SIGCOV routine coverage such as
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articles that have a few words from Groth about YouTuber ad revenue among the words of several other YouTubers.
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One ScreenRant listicle about Poketubers that contains a bare-minimum, 107-word description of Groth's channel.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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as well. Next, there are numerous bottom-of-the-barrel listicles from
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Oops! Thanks for pointing that out; I hadn't even noticed.
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Two small human-interest stories from local news channel
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One small human-interest story from Rice University.
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