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1904:: I was brought here, like many others by Wiggins2, or as he wants to be called, "Wiggie". I think we shouldn't be so quick to shoot him down, as I, & probably many others, are grateful for his post to draw our attention to this subject. I wouldn't mind if the other "side" did the same. But we cannot ignore the fact that this is defintely going to open wikipedia into two halves; Those who want to keep. Those who don't. I.E. Christians, & others. However, this should not be about religion. I would be ashamed of the christians on here if they only voted to keep the articles because they were christian orientated. This should strictly be business as usual, even though it does seem strange an editor would nominate so many christian articles. Maybe a hidden agenda? If an article's crap, then it should be deleted. Being an inclusionist, I will probably keep the most mundane article. However, the list of notable people list is like many others, & should not be here. To do so would be obvious bias. I ask everyone to not be drawn in with a strict "You're wrong, I'm right" situation, but be open & find a way to keep peaceful.... 418:
it's a short article that the writer intends to come back to, later. For example, I intend to start adding articles on some writers of history and some scientists that I think should get some coverage, but if I were to do that and only add as a "stub," I think I'd make it a point to get the notability in there--something other than "is a professor and author." Neither of those things is good enough and it would serve me right if someone came along an deleted it because it contained insufficient information. We all have time issues and we can all understand that one might want to start an article and add to it, later. That's cool. Get whatever makes that person or institution notable in there, first. Then, if you have to come back to it later (maybe even much later), it'll probably still be there, even if still a "stub." Sorry...I have no sympathy for lazy writers. I'm a tad "old school" that way. -
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Oh yes - "Every foreign missionary of the Baptist Bible Fellowship International (currently almost 900) and all the students in our approved colleges receive a copy." So not only is it handed out free, but you don't even get a say in whether you get one or not. That means that 32,000 figure has to be
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I noticed that you were listed as a Christian Wikipedian. I am, too. I wanted to let you know that in the last 24 hours, someone has nominated 12 Christian biography entries for deletion. Not only does this seem like bad faith and an affront to a lot of hard work, but I'd like you to come and vote on
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I think the first priority is not to delete articles that don't seem up to snuff, but to make them better. Perhaps the accusation of laziness applies somewhere in this mess. Four seconds on google gets you the circulation numbers for the publications the subject edited. That's all it takes to know
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non-notable in my book. His contributions to the magazine mentioned by AvB are just reports on what's happening at his school rather than significant articles. Would we have an article on the guy who puts together the weather report of a national newspaper? By the way, I, like Stuffofinterest, would
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Oh, I'm not saying the figure is a lie. I'm saying that sending a free magazine to 32,000 people who are automatically signed up when they enter college is not the same as 32,000 people actually going to a newsagent and buying it. Advertising is an extremely painful market and everyone involved has
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I can see your point, but I think that deleting articles that are not up to snuff should be some level of priority, if not the first. I would add that it's not up to the reader to do the research to see if the party or institution is notable--something in the article should indicate that, even if
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Thats insinuating bullshit. There is nothing wrong with alerting users to the fact that a bunch of delete-wannabies are attacking articles and demanding they get deleted without having any good reasons at all for the delete except the POV rantings of a guy that for some reason got to be an admin.
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Well, there's a difference, too--a fine one, I'll grant--between what some might view as "notable" (Wiki's standards are a tad over-encompassing, after all) and what is "useful." These kinds of articles are not generally useful. They read like bios from corporate literature, and too often don't
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It's true that the reader shouldn't have to hunt for notability. But when, through the magic of Knowledge, we become the editors, we have an obligation to make sure we're not deleting useful information. I guess that's what this process is all about, but I think the default position should be
1638:) only to have a couple of your friends delete them. For those who wish to see the truth about Mark Bilbo, I've compiled 11 or 12 links to his statements on Usenet where he swears at Christians, calls them names, and mocks Jesus and God. So, as I was saying, I don't judge you and I don't call 455:
Some think that deleting articles risks losing valuable information, just because that valuable information or proof of notability isn't there yet. It doesn't. The article can be recreated with those things without being speedily deleted, and articles have been recreated in this way. See
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DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE FORMATION OF CONSENSUS IN THE FUTURE. ANY DECISION TO MERGE/REDIRECT/WHATEVER SHOULD BE MADE BASED ON DISCUSSION ON THE TALK, NOT ON THIS AFD. DO NOT CITE THIS AFD'S RESULT IN FAVOUR OF KEEPING THE ARTICLE AS IS OR REDIRECTING IT IN THE EVENT OF A REVERT WAR.
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A guy who is the head of a university, but has no proper degrees from a proper university, would suggest that the "university" he leads is some tin-pot crackpot self-declared intellectual hotbed. Has this guy ever published any of his work in a respected research journal??
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I never called you scum. If I did though, it would be only a fraction of the negative things you commonly say to Christians. As you know very well, I've never cursed you, but I've summarized the things you've said, with cited quotations, for your Knowledge entry;(see
1721:"Dear Advertiser: Thank you for your interest in the Baptist Bible Tribune... The Tribune circulation is over 32,000, reaching over 100,000 people". So they claim to have a circulation of over 32,000 - to a prospective advertiser no less. That does not meet 1138:. As soon as this started turning into a Christian vs. everyone else debate I lost interest. Unfortunately, many of those voting keep are claiming that everyone else is anti-Christian. This wasn't so, but if it is repeated enough it may become truth. -- 350:. "Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more." This subject meets the qualification with two of the publications he edited/wrote for. 1788:
finely-tuned bullshit detectors. When a free newspaper tells an advertiser they have 32,000 readers, they will automatically think in terms of how many people actually read it and don't just dump it straight in the bin. We need to do the same. --
1341:. Being the president of that school is the only thing for which he's notable that I've seen in the article, and to address Andrewa's concern, if he becomes notable for something else, then recreate the article and make sure to mention that. -- 390:, perhaps passing on laziness (or an attempt to inflate contribution numbers by posting many small, largely substanceless articles instead of a few, good, informative articles) might better serve the purpose of Knowledge. What do you think? - 1172:
has made a great argument, which should be taken into account. Randall's obviously someone worthy to be included in an encyclopedia. He has experience and looks pretty damn intelligent. References and everything. What more do you want? -
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Where do you get the facts to backup the claim that User Jason Gastrich used multiple accounts to further his articles? Now this is going out hand. When you people turn to personal attacks and blatant lies and slandering, it gets personal.
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it is prohibited to use a sockpuppet to create a illusion of a broader support for your side of the argument. Your "campaigning" comes from you and your sockpuppet, and you even admitted that you use sockpuppetry to aid yourself in AfD.
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For what it's worth, I stumbled into this mess of my own accord, and was later encouraged to vote in other AFDs by the original contributor (The last link above). There were a handful of easy keeps among the indiscriminant AFD noms by
572:- As far as I can tell he's a pastor (hundreds of thousands of those) and he's the president of a diploma mill (don't want to guess how many presidents of diploma mills there have ever been). Nothing about any of this says "notable". 1623:
Oh, you'll get used to it. Opposing any opinion of Gastrich is "bad faith," "harrassment," "persecution of Christians" and, anyway, you do it because you're an atheist who "hates Jesus." Why, I'm downright scum. It's a cross I bear.
1434:"Something very funny happened today. I got two identical emails from Jason Gastrich through Knowledge. You can make up your own mind as to whether this qualifies for meat-puppetry or stacking the vote. Here's the email. -- 771:
I don't know what you're complaining about, Juzzy. You're at least Christian and have eternal life, the rest of us have to mentally divide the minutes we spend trying to get rid of vanity articles into our mere 70-80 years ;-)
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because of the alleged misconduct. Consequently, they and the people who are engaging in this witchhunt should be ashamed of themselves. They've done irreparable damage to their integrity and to Knowledge.
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there, as well as the record of the article writer for posting a number of articles about people of questionable notability. If there is information available that makes the person notable according to
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qualify as encyclopedic. However, I certainly think that your opinion is well-considered and valid, even if I'm not convinced that anyone is really taking the latter "default position." -
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If the figure is not correct, they are swindling their advertizers (at USD 1000 a page no less). Somehow I do not find the argument that we need third-party confirmation convincing.
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we need evidence that people outside himself and his flock have paid him or his magazines any attention. Google searches on him and his magazines suggest that they haven't. --
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which in MY book is sufficient qualification to warrant inclusion in WP. As far as I know this may well be one of the reasons for the very low cutoff point of 5,000 copies.
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There seems to be some sort of purging of certain religious figures going on, and it is becoming difficult to stick to the assumption of good faith. This one is an
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Gastrich is saying those who want to delete the articles have "bad faith." If that's not pressuring for ballot stuffing nothing is. No insinuation. Facts.
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as above, with the additional comment that this person is less notable than the average British vice-chancellor, many of whom do not have articles. --
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However, The Baptist Bible Tribune is not online. How can you be sure that Randall only contributes "reports on what's happening at his school"?
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and I wanted to point that out. I'm not getting in to the marginal ones. All my votes/comments are legit and as disinterested as I can be. -
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There's no reason to doubt good faith if the complete information is not in the article and a deletion nomination is made based on what
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Jason Gastrich wrote these series of 12 articles attends the school in question and has been known to used sock puppets, plus...
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for example who it seems likely will). So, if we merge and redirect, we'll later be deleting the redirect. IMO, if he's notable
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which is the highest accreditation that the government can provide in the United States. Will this make you change your vote? --
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As a result of the serial disruption of AfD and other questionable behaviour, I have raised a user RfC on Jason Gastrich, see
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the entries. These nominations seem peculiar because some people are even presidents of universities and well known authors.
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names. However, you frequently open your mouth and do reputable atheists a disservice by the things that come out of it. --
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I dont think this guy is notable of his own right, but his work related to the school warrents him inclusion there.
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President of a diploma mill? It is these sorts of ignorant accusations that make me upset. He's the president of a
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Article is about unnotable with promotion links to his websites/ministry. This is basically a spam article.
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like to think that semi-notable atheist figures would be given the same respect... and deleted. --
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president he deserves a mention on the article on the college, he probably won't merit one as a
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Very untrue. The comments posted above were to question the strength of your argument, as per
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Published by whom? Read by whom? Nothing's stopping YOU from making it better and relevant.
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Even if this were so, that would leave The Baptist Preacher. Which means he is notable
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Knowledge:Suspected_sockpuppets_of_Jason_Gastrich
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for the reasons expressed by Colin Kimbrell. Failing that, merge and redirect to
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president of a college with all of 700 students? I don't see the notablitiy here.
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limit, I'll be happy to come over and vote and argue for that article to be kept.
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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like the rest Gastrich has wasted yet more irreplaceable minutes of our lives.
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Below are some of the links that need attention. Thanks for your consideration.
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in the article that suggests notability. If he falls under some criterion from
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taken with an even bigger grain of salt (several grains of salt?) We deleted
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/J._Otis_Ledbetter
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By the way, I recently started an organization called Wiki4Christ (see
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Are there anywhere near 31,100 students enrolled in Baptist colleges?
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notable after he leaves the college. Any clearer? No change of vote.
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this is a keep. Not to mention his position at his institution. -
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Keep. I see little reason to delete this article. Salva veritate!
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NPOV, published with large readership, President of a University.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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claim to have over 32,000 readers, but there is no third-party
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The school he's president of might be notable, but he isn't.
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This AfD process has been further disrupted by a suspected
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Oh, and if you can point me to an atheist's (or indeed
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