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Really, just source it and keep it as some sort of character list-type thing. What we have here is a list of major recurring elements in the series that ideally should be explained in their own section and have nowhere else to go, which is in essence what a list of fictional characters is. Also, I'm
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and delete the redirect (move history elsewhere) since this is likely to be confused with items related to millennarianism (doomsday items) Merge to whatever Yugioh article is most appropriate.
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