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as neologism for now. I might change my tune if some new sources could be unearthed (e.g. if the NYT reference mentioned earlier could be unearthed; I couldn't find it). If deleted, of course, there should be no prejudice against its recreation if down the road a bit the neologism turns out to have
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The latter part of your contention is that if it was notable, it would have an English equivalent, and I agree to some extent, but something that doesn't have an English equivalent already exists on Knowledge (XXG). After WWII, the Germans had to deal with their past and what they did, and they have
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Other stuff exists is not the argument. The argument is that if this is an "encyclopedia" it should cover both English and non-English subjects, unless it wishes to intentionally be biased and myopic. The latter part of your argument is shear nonsense. Every non-English subject needs to have an
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from cartoons, which is as it should be, since this is the kind of thing Knowledge (XXG) does best. But to, at the same time, intentionally remove a sourced, well-written article on a topic in Korean society is to intentionally push cultural myopia and bias onto Knowledge (XXG). We should work
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Sorry Caspian, didn't mean to come off sounding "scornful". My statement is quite clear, in that there have been regular protests in the ROK since the end of the Great Fatherland Liberation War. O'Rourke and Bond are both authors who have written about the ubiquity and regularity of Korean
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Otherstuff exists is not a good argument. Also, my problem with this term is that it is not English. English speaking people will never search for it. If it's topic is really notable, there should be an English language equivlanet, but there
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unlikely search term in the English language Knowledge (XXG); the Korean Wiki is a better place for this (anyone know the status of that article). I would also disagree that the protests are in any way notable as well. People on the
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Spanning at least a year. This is meant to filter out words that may appear and see brief use, but then never be used again. The one-year threshold is somewhat arbitrary, but appears to work well in practice.
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require the author of the article to be the creator of the "thing made up one day." This article even states: "...this word was a sarcastic term created by a netizen..." so it seems clear to me. Your
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protests. That is, however, another topic for another day. The topic at hand is this particular article about a Korean neologism applied to a structure built at a particular protest. Here is
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and other major international media. Besides, the nominator and editor who support for deletion are the same people having tried to delete the article at Korean Knowledge (XXG). --
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be accepted), and to deal with the protest regarding US beef imports in South Korea. The best place to deal with the protests is in the article about the protests, where the word
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p.s Who are Larry Bond and P.J. O'Rourke? They might be notable in one country, but not in the world, so if you want to take examples, well search and show some good ones. --
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is the most constructive to the issue here; Myungbaksanseong is nothing more than a South Korean idiom, and I think because it indirectlty applies to the U.S., it should be
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the government in question. Also, how is this not historical important? The government is showing it's solution to social unrest! That's usually pretty important.
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Uhh, it most certainly was "just made up one day", it says so right in the article. You did READ the article before opining here at AfD didn't you?
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I can't tell if you're being snarky or just playing some weird semantics game. Of course "made up by the author of the article" is implied by
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throughout my professional career and do maintain a working knowledge of Korean affairs (I certainly would not call myself an expert but I am
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Everything was made up at one time or another. As Ford stated above, then the Declaration of Independence could be deleted.
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problem. We could just mention it and link it somewhere else, a much more travleled article, such as the article on the
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is well taken though. My apologies for any confusion I may have caused. This article, however, still fails to meet
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MB Castle has much historic value in korea. In addition, korean newspaper and TV news program use this word. --
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MB Castle is just one-day event. Do you really think that 'one-day event' can be an article of Knowledge (XXG)?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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in Korea. In ko.wikipedia, Its Deletion discussion is being continuous, and ja.wikipedia, It was deleted.--
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are mentioned, but there is no mention of a special barricade word that erupted from the demonstrations.
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I was posting a reply of that exact quality, but an edit conflict canceled out my posting of links to
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Knowledge (XXG) is not for things you made up at the umpteenth-thousandth Korean protest one day
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I might be a total dummy, but I don't see mention of this word anywhere in the article. The
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right now, and this should be acknowledged by the keeping of an article that describes the
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MB castle is too minor to be an article of a 'Encyclopedia'. Should be deleted quickly.
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Definately was not made up. Even though not well known, this article is still notable.
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Current U.S. pop-culture is represented down to individual episodes of TV series, and
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petitioning their government for redress of grievances in a most enthusiastic manner
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Knowledge (XXG) is not something you and your friends drafted and ratified one day
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Just because the length of an event is short doesn't mean that it isn't notable.
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featured it as a main subject (with its name "myeongbaksansanseong") as did
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Ah. I thought you were stating that the author of the article made it up.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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No I was not saying the author made up the neologism, nor does
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This article has political purpose. and This word has been
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review on 2008 July 1
Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
deletion review
WP:Coatrack
Gwen Gale
talk
15:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Myungbaksanseong
Kwj2772
talk
14:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Theoteryi
talk
14:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
adidas
talk
14:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
KBS
New York Times
Caspian blue
talk
16:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG) is not for things you made up at the umpteenth-thousandth Korean protest one day
L0b0t
talk
17:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ
Review Me!
17:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

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