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1050:- Even If there wasn't enough info at the moment, why remove it? It's the lead single of one of today's major artists and carries enough notability for anticipation, and in a week's time you will have plenty of stuff to put in it. Alone the fact that someone deemed this article for deletion while there are thousands on here that have no place in wiki, should be kind of a point ;) Anyway it seems every single of today's mainstream artist seem to have pages, why do you want to delete this one. 74: 1157:
has provided sources from major sites none of these are in the actual article. Right now it is mostly un-sourced except for the cover art, Polow da Don's involvement, the fact it is an official single and the release date for Australia. In the first source provided doesn't mention Ester Dean plus the
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If only because this makes the Lady Gaga fans mad. Kidding! :D No, seriously, what's all the fuss? The song is only going to get more and more coverage as the weeks go by. It's already been written up by several major sources, including Entertainment Weekly, and more reviews will come. If you delete
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of the requirements. A future single can only have a separate article if there are enough reliable sources covering it. Practically all the major music/entertainment websites have confirmed "Not Myself Tonight" as an official single, and most importantly, so has Christina's label. Maybe this article
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actually for a change i agree with the creation of the article. It is actually reasonable well sourced and is less than two weeks away from release but has already recieved some critical reception and my guess is in the coming days it will recieve even more independent coverage. In terms of content
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confirms the song as a new single. Plenty of song articles around here have been created before the song was released, the only thing that made them proper candidates for deletion is if there were a lack of reliable sources confirming them as an official single. Besides, this song is being released
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the page now, it will only have to get re-written when the video is made and the single hits the charts - and we all know it will. Even if the song bombs, it's worth writing about. This is, as someone else said, Christina Aguilera, not some obscure artist. --
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What don't you understand about IT'S GOING TO PREMIERE THIS WEEK? We have cover art, release dates, and even the cover art. It's premiering in two days, goes to radio next week, and the digital download comes out in two weeks. There is no reason to delete it.
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can be restored from deletion with the click of a button, but there must be a valid reason for the article to be deleted in the first place. So far, I see no reason to delete this article when it meets all the guidelines that require it to be here.
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Articles about songs that haven't got enough information to provide even the basics (like writer and genre) invite chaos, because there are too many editors that feel compelled to insert their best guess into any and all empty infobox
735:" is the operative verb here. I don't think anyone is arguing that it won't probably meet the criteria for having an article at some point in the future. The question to be resolved at this AFD is whether it meets those criteria 1114:
I recommend this article be deleted without discussion, nobody is saying any valid reasons, an article can't exist simply because it exists and their is sources, it HAS to chart or be RELEASED to purchase. Why does nobody
1093:: The article definitely needs some sources, but that cover art has been revealed and a sneak peek has been released. Not to mention it is being released to radio in three days. No need to delete if sources are added. -- 277: 356:
One final comment, and then I will bite my tongue for 24 hours until this AFD goes away one way or the other. People ask what harm is done by premature articles: how about that no one can figure out who wrote it?
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Yes. A whole article from the British Broadcasting Corporation (one of the biggest news networks in the world) is quite enough, as is the whole article from the UK broadsheet The Independent and so on...
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I am not going to badger each keep, but I will point out that at this point, none of the keep indications (afireinside27, HC 5555, Alexshunn, 190.29.227.98) have even commented on the relevant guideline,
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rest of the article is un-sourced. In order for this article to be notable the links mentioned above should be in the article plus all the information in the article should be properly sourced.
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It's about Knowledge (XXG) guidelines not personal opinion, the deletion can be reverted when it charts by the click of a button, until then it doesn't meet noteablility guidelines.
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Are you kidding me? It's by Christina Aguilera, not some obscure artist. It's the lead single off of her highly-anticipated new album. Of course it will deserve a separate article.
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The single will released in late march. Confirmed. So, why we have to "redirect" somthing already announced? And, we aren't talking about and indie group. --
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This is necessary? I mean, it represents a complete waste of time. It was announced, and in less than a week, will be on, at least, ten charts. --
579:. Song will be premiering at the end of this week and already has a release date. Will obviously chart in the coming weeks. No point in deleting. 498: 205: 200: 765:
While you're still arguing here, the lyrics of the song was posted in her official site... Of course this need a separate article. Will -: -->
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says the article must have "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". I found sources from:
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
1254: 961:. Poor timing to nominate this article for deletion, there's too many sources supporting its right to exist. 720: 772: 703: 664: 584: 196: 905: 796: 712: 136: 110: 1136: 1098: 991: 966: 299: 95: 1273: 1250: 834: 1190: 1055: 804: 1033:- Lots of coverage now, and no need to delete it when it will even become greater during next week. 1154: 884: 847: 645: 618: 557: 518: 505: 421: 285: 1001: 978: 444: 339: 317: 313: 1038: 699: 580: 188: 142: 73: 63: 677: 265: 743:, it does not, and serves only as an accumulation point for rumors, gossip, and the occasional 1132: 1121: 1094: 1075: 932: 868: 601: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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to Bionic. There is not way for us to predict the future performance of the song. And per
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My take on this the article currently does not meet the guidelines established. While
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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Typical premature article, containing such earth-shattering information as "
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Hell, as long as we are just guessing, maybe Christina Aguilera wrote it:
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that confirm the song as an official single, not to mention Christina's
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Ridiculous to redirect it. It premiers this week for crying out load!
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A music video will be shot soon. No other details have been revealed.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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You'll have to point out that provision for future singles in
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Edit conflicts are not a valid reason to delete an article.
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among Knowledge (XXG) contributors. Knowledge (XXG) has
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and the only thing its really missing is some charts.
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article has more references and is sourced properly
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Not Myself Tonight
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assume good faith
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