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520:, e.g. on January 1, there were eight mass shootings in the US that day, four on January 9, three on January 19 and January 29, etc. The coverage appears to support a redirect to where this event is already mentioned, and no compelling reason has been offered to ignore guidelines and policy in response to the guideline and policy-based reasons (e.g. 385:
The alleged shooter was injured, and there is a criminal case that has received some periodic local coverage, but the case appears to be low-profile and without a significant or widespread impact. While some United States mass shootings may be notable based on available coverage, notability for a
52:. While mass shootings in the US are regrettably a dime a dozen and it is as yet unclear whether this will get sustained coverage (unlikely in my opinion) There is clear consensus to "keep" this article. No prejudice to re-nomination should it become evident that there is no ongoing coverage. 605:. This is not an event that has impact beyond the event itself. As to the argument that it made national news - have you looked at how much content there is in every issue of the NY Times and Washington Post? National news is not = encyclopedic. It has to be more than news, and this isn't. 370:
seems fine. The shooter was killed, I don't really know what more they can publish about it; there won't be a trial. No long-term effects from what I can see. It got lost in the news cycle and soon forgotten about. Do we really need an article for every shooting in the USA?
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This was making news as recently as about a month ago. Here are some sources that show news coverage over a period of time, which I think is the important thing. I think criminal proceedings have not concluded, so I think this will continue to make news:
432:- precedent shows that mass shootings with with any fatality meet WP's notability criteria. It's not a daily occurrence and there are plenty of articles about events that rarely, if ever receive coverage these days. Sourcing is also adequate. 580:, but there are some somewhat interesting bits in this case and in the initial communication afterwards. There was somewhat wide/deep coverage, though the time period could be argued- but it's common for crime stories to become 202: 532:) to support a deletion/redirect; with regard to the vague wave at 'precedent', the list article suggested as a redirect target seems to demonstrate support for inclusion in that list, not a standalone article, and 449:
The incident made the national news (Wash Post, NY Times) and occurred during a protest against police violence making it atypical. There is sufficient non-local coverage to demonstrate notability.
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on Feb. 20, 2022, the shooting occurred "near the site of a demonstration planned to protest police violence". There was a brief flurry of national attention, which does not appear to have
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report on Feb. 27, 2022 about these types of events generally, that also includes corrections to initial statements from police published in the early
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in that article, because the coverage does not appear to be about the park, it is about a mass shooting that happened near the park. A redirect to
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is met without more time, and without better recent source. But, I think this article is still is overall a net positive to the encyclopaedia.
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https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/15/fbi-knew-alleged-shooter-at-portlands-normandale-park-was-possible-threat-before-fatal-protest-shooting/
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issues that even if resolved, do not seem to add support for notability due to the local coverage of a low-profile criminal case.
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https://www.opb.org/article/2022/03/24/accused-shooter-at-portland-normandale-park-protest-pleads-not-guilty/
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quiet before a trial. I'm happy to revisit my opinion on "but what about no ongoing coverage" after that.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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notability does not appear supported. There was an initial burst of national coverage (and
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as this was a notable mass shooting that interrupted a peaceful racial justice protest.
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per Beccaynr. One dead and five injured. Commonplace, sadly, in the 21st century US.
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About a year has passed since the event, so I am not sure I can say
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standalone article for this event does not appear supported by the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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What are your thoughts on merging/moving the content to
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https://heavy.com/news/benjamin-jeffrey-smith-polybun/
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the coverage is not a lot, especially recently, and
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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022
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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022
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by the reason explained by @Knightoftheswords281 --
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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022
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