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634:. None of our policies say that we can't consider it, only that it may not on its own amount to notability. You say {tq|Simply being... the leader of a minor political party without legislative representation" is not a notability clincher. Perhaps, not but it is certainly a significant factor. The Greens are not just any other political party. While they do not have "legislative representation" in Saskatchewan they are the official opposition in PEI, are in a supply and confidence agreement with the government in British Columbia and have three elected MPs federally, one MPP in Ontario and two in New Brunswick (or did at dissolution). They also have elected councillors in Vancouver and Burnaby. Liberals 448:, I'm a member of a party myself and don't consider myself to have one, but it's possible that their view on whether the subject's high office within that party offers a route to notability might be somewhat clouded. I'd urge them to ensure that their arguments are well-grounded in specific policies or guidelines and supported by excellent sources, rather than assuring us that it's 'notable enough for them'. 646:(which hasn't held a seat since 2003). If they are notable it is only because of the historical status of that party, or the Liberal brand federally and in other provinces. The Greens are a party which has been gaining significance federally and in many provinces. Neither you nor I know where they will be in ten years or how 482:
that she wrote herself, and the initial same-day blip of "party selects new leader" coverage, with not a single source dated either before or after March 1. No prejudice against recreation in the future if and when there's much more substance that can be written about her, and much more sources that
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show some evidence of campaign coverage, but every candidate in every election everywhere is not notable enough for a Knowledge article. To be encyclopedically notable just for being a candidate, a person has to either (a) pass another notability test completely independently of her candidacy, such
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I think that the minor political party argument is a bit of a red herring, considering that NPOL doesn't include any provisions for establishing notability on the basis of positions in party leadership. If additional coverage can't be found for Anwar or Lamoureux, those articles should probably be
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for enduring significance, such that she has a credible claim to being a special case of greater notability than most other unelected candidates. Simply being a candidate, however, is not a notability clincher, and neither is being the leader of a minor political party without legislative
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I usually wait until there's a consensus in the first discussion, and until I've completed a proper BEFORE, before actually nominating the articles. My comment was simply intended to state that those articles, as written, do not clearly make a case for meeting notability guidelines.
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I haven't searched rigorously for sourcing myself (on mobile, might do it later), but the author of the article has a number of user boxes declaring their support for the party this person is involved with. I do not mean to imply that there is anything rising to a
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While my own personal opinion might be a little more flexible on this, the past several deletion discussions we have had about provincial Green Party leaders has led to deletion. At this current point, fails NPOL.
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That seems to be a naive omission. But sure, if we are going to delete any unelected politician who has led a party (regardless of the significance of that party), let's at least be consistent. I have nominated
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unless the article actually sees improvement. Being leader of a minor political party without legislative representation is not an "inherently" notable role per
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will be viewed at that time, but this regular "leader of minor political party without legislative representation" shtick is particularly unhelpful.--
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Coverage of an unsuccessful candidacy for political office does not assist in bolstering a person's notability —
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arguments are not determinative of anything, it is worth noting that both the current Liberal leader,
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is irrelevant because of her preexisting notability, or (b) show that her candidacy was so much more
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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There is no reason to treat leaders of parties with 0 seats as default notable.
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than everybody else's candidacies, in some way that would pass the
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can be brought to bear — but this, as written, is not yet enough.
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that are currently represented in the legislature. Based on the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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on her sourcing. But all we've got here so far is one
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