514:. A song that is 450 years old and we know who the composer is? That's notable in itself in western music! It certainly looks and smells "notable" but because I don't have the wherewithal to ascertain it, I won't vote keep, but it is my opinion. Maybe with a little research and editing by those that can will save the article? --
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I had looked at Google News, which goes through newspaper archives, using "Narayana Ninna Namada" and this got nothing. If it's only "Narayana Ninna" then there are hits but only trivial mentions. At Google books both version give basically as much. There may or may not be a systemic bias. The matter
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