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513:: When the New York Times covers a group playing at Carnegie Hall, it is no different than the Ames Tribune, in Ames Iowa, covering a group playing in the Iowa State University music hall. Just because the New York Times is a national paper does not mean that everything it writes is intended for a national audience. Or do you think that
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