264:: When one subtracts this MDs media coverage one finds that she has done no more than many academic cardiologists in New York City. She has, to her credit, worled to better health care, but has no outstanding scientific accomplishment to her credit that would lift her above the usual academic physician. The neutrality of the article has been disputed previously with seemingly no attempt to correct it. Is being seen on Dr. Oz and cereal boxes criteria for a page on Knowledge?
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547:. The fact that PW and LJ are trade journals doesn't make them unreliable sources at all. They're used in the library and bookselling industry to help professionals like myself make decisions about collection development. :)
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