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476:: With the sources found by TheCatalyst31, I think this passes GNG. However, I think the article can't really be expanded beyond the current size much. The sources, after removing all the verbiage about how they determined the history, all pretty much just said when the house was built, who built it, and that it was where Washington spent a night (with more or less information about any of those items). From the primary sources listed in the article we can get information about the house's construction, architecture, and decorations, but I am not sure how much that information will add to the encyclopedia. No, really, I have no idea; hence my "keep or merge" vote. If adding that sort of thing will make the encyclopedia better, then keep it. If it won't, then merge. 380:
sources to have already been produced. In any event, I haven't seen any notability guidelines explicitly granting presumptive notability to buildings in which Washington (allegedly) slept, but NOTINHERITED definitely covers whether every building in a historic district is notable: thankfully, not, because the notion of a Knowledge (XXG) article on the tenement apartment building in which I lived for three years (and which just happened to be in the boundaries of a
428:"Properties within a historic district fall into one of two types of property: contributing and non-contributing. A contributing property, such as a 19th-century mansion, helps make a historic district historic, while a non-contributing property, such as a modern medical clinic, does not. The contributing properties are key to a historic district's historic associations, historic architectural qualities, or archaeological qualities" 501:(click the INV link to download the file) suggests that the house actually would be historically significant enough to be listed on the National Register independently, though a listing wasn't pursued since it was already preserved as part of the historic district. There are also plenty of sources here to meet 379:
I couldn't readily count the number of AfDs I've seen where a previous AfD a decade earlier closed on the basis of "further research will likely reveal more sources" ... never to have done so, obviously. This notion has always flown in the face of settled policies and guidelines requiring such
416:"Artificial geographical features that are officially assigned the status of cultural heritage or national heritage, or of any other protected status on a national level and for which verifiable information beyond simple statistics is available, are presumed to be notable." 207: 361:
clearly indicates it is. This article is less than one week old. Further research will likely reveal more sources and there should be no delete, but rather expansion to this very specific piece of American history.
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no apparent evidence for notability, unless every house where George Washington slept for one night is notable. There is no evidence that the building is on any historical register. If it is, it would be notable.
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As per nominator "There is no evidence that the building is on any historical register. If it is, it would be notable." Since it is on the National Register of Historic Places, it would be notable.
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While buildings that are on the National Register through historic districts are only independently notable if proven otherwise, this house actually does seem to be independently notable. The
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in the "significant detail" the GNG requires, they should be produced. If not, the content can be merged into the historic district article, which is just a scanty paragraph long itself.
381: 258: 277: 436:. I can see few situations in which a large 18th-century house would not be considered notable anywhere in the world, whether it had associations with someone famous or not. -- 160: 201: 52:. Opinions were split between keeping and merging. Since the latter can be done outside of the scope of an AfD without any admin assistance, this seems like the best option. 297: 92: 350:, may just indicate that "every house where George Washington slept for one night is notable', especially if it is still standing, and certainly if it is a 553:. The rather limited notable information about this house would be better served in the context of the district article, rather than a separate permastub. 107: 167: 133: 128: 137: 120: 331: 87: 80: 17: 222: 550: 534: 355: 327: 60: 189: 101: 97: 408:, was cursory, since several sources were easy to find and could easily "be produced",as this building clearly saisfies 321: 627: 40: 324: 183: 610: 596: 579: 562: 541: 525: 485: 464: 445: 398: 371: 339: 309: 289: 269: 250: 62: 179: 124: 558: 335: 305: 285: 229: 409: 623: 421: 351: 36: 441: 389: 58: 477: 456: 215: 116: 68: 405: 592: 554: 522: 481: 460: 301: 281: 195: 359: 510: 262: 76: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
575: 367: 502: 538: 437: 53: 588: 587:. Several good sources in article and elsewhere, per TheCatalyst31. Clearly notable. 246: 604:. Current version of article greatly improved. Meets GNG per sources found by TC31. 498: 154: 571: 363: 241: 605: 330:, though I have been unable to determine if it is a listed property. 384:) is a gigglefit. In any event, if there are sources discussing 618:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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List of Washington's Headquarters during the Revolutionary War
505:; in addition to the ones already in the article, there's 326:) indicate that this property is located within the NRHP 150: 146: 142: 214: 537:, of which this building is a contributing property. 228: 513:(free to borrow with an account), and sections of 259:list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions 278:list of Architecture-related deletion discussions 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 630:). No further edits should be made to this page. 296:Note: This discussion has been included in the 276:Note: This discussion has been included in the 257:Note: This discussion has been included in the 8: 298:list of History-related deletion discussions 108:Help, my article got nominated for deletion! 295: 275: 256: 320:Town and historical society documents ( 509:, coverage of the interior design in 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 507:this extensive section of a journal 24: 551:Dedham Village Historic District 535:Dedham Village Historic District 356:Dedham Village Historic District 328:Dedham Village Historic District 93:Introduction to deletion process 1: 611:03:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC) 597:00:21, 10 October 2019 (UTC) 486:14:02, 10 October 2019 (UTC) 63:12:29, 15 October 2019 (UTC) 580:22:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 563:18:25, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 542:17:41, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 526:14:52, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 465:14:01, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 446:09:07, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 399:02:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC) 372:16:53, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 340:16:05, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 310:12:51, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 290:12:51, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 270:10:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 251:09:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC) 83:(AfD)? Read these primers! 647: 410:Knowledge (XXG):NBUILDING 620:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 420:Addtionally, stated at 430: 418: 406:Knowledge (XXG):BEFORE 499:MACRIS inventory file 426: 422:contributing property 414: 352:contributing property 81:Articles for deletion 117:Samuel Dexter House 69:Samuel Dexter House 312: 292: 272: 98:Guide to deletion 88:How to contribute 638: 412:, which states: 395: 267: 233: 232: 218: 170: 158: 140: 78: 34: 646: 645: 641: 640: 639: 637: 636: 635: 634: 628:deletion review 519:this other book 454:per Ravenswing. 391: 263: 175: 166: 131: 115: 112: 75: 72: 48:The result was 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 644: 642: 633: 632: 614: 613: 599: 582: 565: 544: 531:Merge/redirect 528: 491: 490: 489: 488: 468: 467: 448: 402: 401: 374: 342: 314: 313: 293: 273: 236: 235: 172: 111: 110: 105: 95: 90: 73: 71: 66: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 643: 631: 629: 625: 621: 616: 615: 612: 609: 608: 603: 600: 598: 594: 590: 586: 583: 581: 577: 573: 569: 566: 564: 560: 556: 555:Pi.1415926535 552: 548: 545: 543: 540: 536: 532: 529: 527: 524: 523:TheCatalyst31 520: 516: 512: 508: 504: 500: 496: 493: 492: 487: 483: 479: 475: 474:Keep or Merge 472: 471: 470: 469: 466: 462: 458: 455: 453: 449: 447: 443: 439: 435: 432: 431: 429: 425: 423: 417: 413: 411: 407: 400: 397: 396: 394: 387: 386:this building 383: 382:NHRP district 378: 375: 373: 369: 365: 360: 357: 353: 349: 346: 343: 341: 337: 333: 332:24.151.50.175 329: 325: 322: 319: 316: 315: 311: 307: 303: 302:Coolabahapple 299: 294: 291: 287: 283: 282:Coolabahapple 279: 274: 271: 268: 266: 260: 255: 254: 253: 252: 248: 244: 243: 231: 227: 224: 221: 217: 213: 209: 206: 203: 200: 197: 194: 191: 188: 185: 181: 178: 177:Find sources: 173: 169: 165: 162: 156: 152: 148: 144: 139: 135: 130: 126: 122: 118: 114: 113: 109: 106: 103: 99: 96: 94: 91: 89: 86: 85: 84: 82: 77: 70: 67: 65: 64: 61: 59: 57: 56: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 619: 617: 606: 601: 584: 567: 546: 530: 494: 473: 451: 450: 433: 427: 419: 415: 403: 392: 390: 385: 376: 344: 317: 265:CAPTAIN RAJU 264: 240: 237: 225: 219: 211: 204: 198: 192: 186: 176: 163: 74: 54: 50:no consensus 49: 47: 31: 28: 393:Ravenswing 345:Speedy Keep 202:free images 539:Neutrality 438:Necrothesp 55:Ritchie333 624:talk page 515:this book 511:this book 404:Clearly, 37:talk page 626:or in a 589:Station1 478:Rockphed 457:Rockphed 358:, which 161:View log 102:glossary 39:or in a 568:Comment 377:Delete: 354:to the 318:Comment 208:WP refs 196:scholar 134:protect 129:history 79:New to 572:Djflem 503:WP:GNG 452:Delete 364:Djflem 180:Google 138:delete 547:Merge 247:talk 223:JSTOR 184:books 168:Stats 155:views 147:watch 143:links 16:< 602:Keep 593:talk 585:Keep 576:talk 559:talk 517:and 495:Keep 482:talk 461:talk 442:talk 434:Keep 368:talk 336:talk 323:and 306:talk 286:talk 216:FENS 190:news 151:logs 125:talk 121:edit 549:to 533:to 242:DGG 230:TWL 159:– ( 607:MB 595:) 578:) 561:) 521:. 484:) 463:) 444:) 424:: 370:) 338:) 308:) 300:. 288:) 280:. 261:. 249:) 210:) 153:| 149:| 145:| 141:| 136:| 132:| 127:| 123:| 591:( 574:( 557:( 480:( 459:( 440:( 366:( 334:( 304:( 284:( 245:( 234:) 226:· 220:· 212:· 205:· 199:· 193:· 187:· 182:( 174:( 171:) 164:· 157:) 119:( 104:) 100:(

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