Knowledge

:Articles for deletion/Sholiyar - Knowledge

Source đź“ť

246:. They are two very different communities. The article you provided is another one eligible for deletion. Sholiyar and Sozhiya Vellalars are two different communities. But the article whose link is provided appears to be a hoax clubbing these different communities into a single entity. Thanks for bringing this to light :-) - 335:
4. The Brahmin priest named 'Damodaranar' in the article was actually called 'Vadama Vannakan Damodaranar'; if any meaning is to be derived from the first name Vadama, he appears to have been a member of a sub-group of the Iyers. Refer Transactions of the Archaeological Society of South India, 1955
294:. The dispute was resolved after a couple of rounds, with the curious message at Sholiyar Talk, I have already referenced. I had no idea where the material was accomodated, but things now are clear as day. I must say, there are few who can compete with him at his game, saving perhaps 356:
This is but a small number of the numerous contradictions that abound within the article, and is a sufficient indictment for its deletion and re-creation or at least for its substantial re-working. I therefore recommend that the article be
332:
of Kerala have a far longer history than the 14th c. Pandya country origin, the article seems to suggest. Adi Shankara of the 7th c. A.D. is held to have been a Nambudiri by some, for instance.
339:
5. The article appears to contradict itself when it says that the name Sholiyar dates no earlier than the 19th c. and then proceeds to refer to the ancient Tamil proverb about the Sholiyars.
124: 161: 353:
7. Of all the Nayanmars who belonged to the Sholiyars according to the article, only Sundarar is held to have been a Brahmin by most accounts.
298:. The two pages he has created need to be sorely re-worked at the very least; the one with content of dubious value and original research i.e. 17: 325:; the extent of the 'Eighteen Villagers' being a part of the Sholiyars is doubtful given this, and the clause in point 1. 91: 86: 286:
with the switching I.P. that was used to vandalise those two pages. I did notice the user responsible for the edits to
139:. Most of the content has been included by an user blocked for racist propaganda, disruptive edits and sockpuppetry.- 95: 448: 78: 36: 447:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
318:, not a Sholiyar, though the extent of overlap between these two groups is in itself supposed to be extensive. 35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
252: 145: 290:
engage in an exchange with another user who tried to introduce information on the Choliya Vellalars into
389: 172: 429: 393: 370: 366: 283: 271: 257: 197: 176: 150: 82: 60: 416: 303: 274:. I am strongly led to suspect that it is the same user who was responsible for the vandalism at 267: 247: 203: 194: 186: 140: 342:
6. According to the legend of Trichendur, the only Brahmins who were called there by the Lord
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
347: 385: 168: 306:. In addition to the numerous instances of POV and OR, a few objections to the content in 362: 136: 51: 422: 410: 219: 190: 132: 112: 404:
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
379:
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
329: 307: 299: 295: 291: 287: 74: 66: 343: 279: 322: 441:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
315: 275: 282:, given the similarity of the I.P. address of the message at 346:
or who accompanied him are those who are commonly known as
321:
2. The 'Eighteen Villagers' are generally considered to be
206:
displays a greater degree of ambiguity. Actually, the term
48:
No "keep" opinion after half a month, very poor sourcing.
119: 108: 104: 100: 409:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 384:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 451:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 302:and another, which is entirely dubious i.e. 131:Unreferenced casteist propaganda. Violates 162:list of India-related deletion discussions 160:: This debate has been included in the 266:A clue as to who created the page on 7: 24: 232:Brahmins from the Chola country 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 244:farmers from the Chola country 222:or Chozha country". There are 185:. Is "Sholiyar" group same as 1: 218:roughly means "people of the 350:, a sub-group of the Iyers. 468: 270:and why, will be found at 444:Please do not modify it. 430:21:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC) 394:21:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC) 61:22:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 371:17:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC) 258:13:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC) 198:03:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC) 177:17:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC) 151:16:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC) 202:Well, the article 432: 426: 396: 314:1. Chembai is an 236:Sozhiya Vellalars 228:Sholiya Anthaanar 179: 165: 59: 459: 446: 427: 424: 419: 413: 408: 406: 383: 381: 250: 166: 156: 143: 122: 116: 98: 58: 56: 49: 44:The result was 34: 467: 466: 462: 461: 460: 458: 457: 456: 455: 449:deletion review 442: 423: 417: 411: 402: 377: 255: 248: 148: 141: 118: 89: 73: 70: 52: 50: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 465: 463: 454: 453: 436: 434: 433: 407: 399: 398: 397: 382: 374: 312: 311: 263: 262: 261: 260: 254:My coffee shop 253: 224:Sholiyar Iyers 180: 147:My coffee shop 146: 129: 128: 69: 64: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 464: 452: 450: 445: 439: 438: 437: 431: 428: 420: 414: 405: 401: 400: 395: 391: 387: 380: 376: 375: 373: 372: 368: 364: 360: 354: 351: 349: 345: 340: 337: 333: 331: 326: 324: 319: 317: 309: 305: 301: 297: 293: 289: 285: 284:Talk:Sholiyar 281: 277: 273: 272:Talk:Sholiyar 269: 265: 264: 259: 256: 251: 245: 241: 237: 233: 229: 225: 221: 217: 213: 209: 205: 201: 200: 199: 196: 192: 188: 184: 181: 178: 174: 170: 163: 159: 155: 154: 153: 152: 149: 144: 138: 134: 126: 121: 114: 110: 106: 102: 97: 93: 88: 84: 80: 76: 72: 71: 68: 65: 63: 62: 57: 55: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 443: 440: 435: 403: 378: 358: 355: 352: 341: 338: 334: 327: 320: 313: 243: 239: 235: 231: 227: 223: 215: 211: 207: 182: 157: 130: 53: 45: 43: 31: 28: 386:Fabrictramp 361:, for now. 304:Sholiyarkal 268:Sholiyarkal 249:Ravichandar 204:Sholiyarkal 187:Sholiyarkal 169:Fabrictramp 142:Ravichandar 425:Disclaimer 330:Nambudiris 54:Sandstein 363:Voltigeur 240:Vellalars 216:Chozhiyar 348:Mukkanis 308:Sholiyar 300:Sholiyar 296:Gaiseric 292:Sholiyar 288:Sholiyar 230:who are 212:Sozhiyar 208:Sholiyar 191:utcursch 125:View log 75:Sholiyar 67:Sholiyar 359:Deleted 328:3. The 183:Comment 137:WP:NPOV 92:protect 87:history 46:delete. 412:Keeper 344:Muruga 280:Vadama 120:delete 96:delete 323:Iyers 220:Chola 133:WP:OR 123:) – ( 113:views 105:watch 101:links 16:< 390:talk 367:talk 316:Iyer 278:and 276:Iyer 238:are 195:talk 173:talk 158:Note 135:and 109:logs 83:talk 79:edit 421:| 415:| 242:or 226:or 214:or 210:or 167:-- 164:. 418:76 392:) 369:) 234:; 193:| 189:? 175:) 111:| 107:| 103:| 99:| 94:| 90:| 85:| 81:| 388:( 365:( 310:: 171:( 127:) 117:( 115:) 77:(

Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
 Sandstein 
22:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Sholiyar
Sholiyar
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
WP:OR
WP:NPOV
Ravichandar
My coffee shop
16:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
list of India-related deletion discussions
Fabrictramp
talk
17:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Sholiyarkal
utcursch
talk
03:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.

↑