365:
this case, there's no indication of where their information comes from, so when they say it's a settlement, I have to ask, "how do they know that?" Moreover, the indication is that nobody has actually made a site visit. As for the two homesteaders, what we have here is just a name drop. I can just as well believe that Stark happened to be the post office where they got their mail; the passages aren't about Stark, and they don't say anything about it. Everything else is inference.
364:
While I don't completely discount ghosttowns.com, they are an amateur, self-published, and to some degree crowd-sourced site; I can't see taking them as a reliable source for writing material here, though I am willing to accept their photographs as some degree of verification of other sources. But in
236:
Looking at topos, it looks as though Mr. Stark's ranch eventually was called the "Valley View Ranch", and GMaps shows only ruins. Likewise the rail line is gone, and from the article text you can already guess: yes, Stark was yet another isolated passing siding with nothing around it. One ranch, at
421:
as there were unrelated people reported to be "from" Stark and lots of legal notices about land claims. I also found this snippet "The overpass at Stark, Arizona, was formally dedicated
February 8 (1931). This was the first work of this character in the entire country completed under President
422:
Roosevelt's WPA grade separation program. The dedication program was ..." I'm not sure what to make of this. Grade separation means the railroad was elevated over another busy route - but I don't know what this could be.
205:
313:
Having a post office isn't evidence for a settlement/community; they were put in all sorts of places (especially railroad stations) as an expedient, but the places were quite often isolated.
166:
296:
199:
379:
It does confirm that there were more residents than just the postmaster. There are a number of other land transfers, so there was definitely a real population at Stark. ~
274:
254:
113:
98:
139:
134:
143:
220:
126:
93:
86:
17:
187:
404:
Clearly a railroad facility. A post office is not a reliable indication of a community. Nothing to indicate notability.
107:
103:
181:
445:
40:
177:
428:
413:
390:
374:
355:
322:
308:
286:
266:
246:
68:
130:
441:
409:
227:
36:
382:
347:
122:
74:
213:
341:
338:
193:
82:
64:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
440:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
405:
370:
318:
282:
262:
242:
304:
54:
58:
335:
160:
366:
314:
299:
which had a procedural keep. Having a separate AfD for Stark is fine with me.
278:
258:
238:
300:
423:
436:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
295:. Stark had a post office. BTW - Stark was part of a
156:
152:
148:
212:
43:). No further edits should be made to this page.
448:). No further edits should be made to this page.
273:Note: This discussion has been included in the
253:Note: This discussion has been included in the
275:list of Geography-related deletion discussions
226:
8:
255:list of Arizona-related deletion discussions
114:Help, my article got nominated for deletion!
272:
252:
237:some distance, does not a community make.
334:Not just a siding but a settlement per
7:
24:
99:Introduction to deletion process
18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion
414:21:10, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
391:20:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
375:19:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
356:15:41, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
323:05:48, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
309:03:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
287:16:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
267:16:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
247:16:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
1:
429:05:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
89:(AfD)? Read these primers!
69:12:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
465:
438:Please do not modify it.
344:, so not just a ranch. ~
32:Please do not modify it.
87:Articles for deletion
297:previous blanket AfD
339:There were at least
55:(non-admin closure)
289:
269:
104:Guide to deletion
94:How to contribute
57:
456:
385:
350:
231:
230:
216:
164:
146:
84:
61:
53:
34:
464:
463:
459:
458:
457:
455:
454:
453:
452:
446:deletion review
383:
348:
342:a few residents
173:
137:
121:
118:
81:
78:
59:
48:The result was
41:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
462:
460:
451:
450:
432:
431:
416:
398:
397:
396:
395:
394:
393:
359:
358:
328:
327:
326:
325:
290:
270:
234:
233:
170:
123:Stark, Arizona
117:
116:
111:
101:
96:
79:
77:
75:Stark, Arizona
72:
46:
45:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
461:
449:
447:
443:
439:
434:
433:
430:
427:
426:
420:
417:
415:
411:
407:
403:
400:
399:
392:
388:
387:
386:
378:
377:
376:
372:
368:
363:
362:
361:
360:
357:
353:
352:
351:
343:
340:
336:
333:
330:
329:
324:
320:
316:
312:
311:
310:
306:
302:
298:
294:
291:
288:
284:
280:
276:
271:
268:
264:
260:
256:
251:
250:
249:
248:
244:
240:
229:
225:
222:
219:
215:
211:
207:
204:
201:
198:
195:
192:
189:
186:
183:
179:
176:
175:Find sources:
171:
168:
162:
158:
154:
150:
145:
141:
136:
132:
128:
124:
120:
119:
115:
112:
109:
105:
102:
100:
97:
95:
92:
91:
90:
88:
83:
76:
73:
71:
70:
66:
62:
56:
51:
44:
42:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
437:
435:
424:
418:
401:
381:
380:
346:
345:
331:
292:
235:
223:
217:
209:
202:
196:
190:
184:
174:
80:
49:
47:
31:
28:
406:Glendoremus
200:free images
442:talk page
419:Weak keep
293:Weak Keep
37:talk page
444:or in a
167:View log
108:glossary
39:or in a
206:WP refs
194:scholar
140:protect
135:history
85:New to
60:Pamzeis
402:Delete
367:Mangoe
315:Mangoe
279:Mangoe
259:Mangoe
239:Mangoe
178:Google
144:delete
301:Cxbrx
221:JSTOR
182:books
161:views
153:watch
149:links
16:<
410:talk
384:EDDY
371:talk
349:EDDY
332:Keep
319:talk
305:talk
283:talk
263:talk
243:talk
214:FENS
188:news
157:logs
131:talk
127:edit
65:talk
50:keep
228:TWL
165:– (
425:MB
412:)
389:~
373:)
354:~
337:.
321:)
307:)
285:)
277:.
265:)
257:.
245:)
208:)
159:|
155:|
151:|
147:|
142:|
138:|
133:|
129:|
67:)
52:.
408:(
369:(
317:(
303:(
281:(
261:(
241:(
232:)
224:·
218:·
210:·
203:·
197:·
191:·
185:·
180:(
172:(
169:)
163:)
125:(
110:)
106:(
63:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.