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310:- It's a little bit dictionary-definitiony, but an encyclopedic noun that is apt to show up in the leads of WP biographies, particularly for pre-20th Century figures. As such, this "job description" really does need to show as a bluelink, not red, for the betterment of the encyclopedia. There is certainly much room for improvement, but even in its current state there is sufficient content that a non-native english speaker using en-WP should be helped out by the link's existence. 244:. I think this can be expanded to be more than a dictionary definition. Where is the list of politicians who have been commonly called as statesman for example? Anon on talk page seems to think this should be deleted because who is a statesman is ill-defined in English language. It is true this is not a distinct field or profession, but neither is 268:
The robber baron article is specifically about the 19th century term, and discusses it solely in that limited context. The list on that article is a list of 19th century American industrialists. 'Statesman' has no specific context, and the maintainers of its page have already agreed that any list
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an IP user. Their rationale was that the article lacks substance, and could better be suited as an entry at Wiktionary, and I tend to agree. I haven't done a search for any references to build the article, this is more a nomination on behalf of the IP.
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would be inherently POV. The only way to avoid it would be to make it a list of "prominent leaders, politicians, and diplomats", and of course there are already articles on each of those subjects.
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per SupernovaExplosion. The article can be reinstated if and when enough substantial sources are found for expansion.--
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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