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and a bunch of shorter mentions in several other academic works, overall the movie has been clearly subject to media and academic discourse about how people in Poland see Polish emigrants in the USA. I could throw more sources, but really, what needs flying here is a
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discusses several reviews of the movie by known Polish movie criticis and notes it was a big box office hit in Poland of that time. PPS. There is one more in-depth academic article about the movie and the book it is based on but it seems not to be available online:
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As I nominated this for a DYK, I wouldn't mind seeing those "more sources"? Maybe I can use them to expand the article? TIA. --
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This non notable film has no independent reviews found in a WP:BEFORE search. Only things found were film database sites.
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IMDb is a non-reliable source per our own guidelines, all articles should be built on reliable sources.
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Since the updates of the article it has proved itself both relevant, notable and well sourced.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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but sadly that magazine has digital archives from 1998 onward only right now (
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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before. It is a major Polish film by a major Polish director (
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