307:-Unless major editing is done to this article, it should be deleted. The only source I see is a spreadsheet that gives no reference as to where it is from. Many of the outposts listed, are not considered outposts; for example the British police station. Another example is the outpost listed as unknown. How can you add an outpost to the list unknown. Nothing is listed under the outpost except that it is in Hebron hills. This article does not represent accurate facts in it's current format.
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I'm not backing off the AFD or its reasons none of which accused the creator of POV or POINT (which would usually be expected whenever the subject of settlements in Israel is brought up). If the list, its premise and its data could be confirmed by an objective entity, then there might be a case to
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sentence is POV and false. The article is missing context, the list lacks any form of logical structure, and both basically confusing to a reader unfamiliar with the subject or even one very familiar. The main section is a list which is merely a copy&pasted spreadsheet from a non-neutral and
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