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influences the functioning of a larger social system. This porch sitting forms a "porch society'." There are also a few
Scholar results discussing the "culture" of porch sitting as it relates to elderly care and well being. Google Books search also shows some hits, which at a minimum show that the term is not a neologism and that there is recognition of it as culturally significant, and it gives me hope that there is more out there. See also
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No one's arguing that sitting on a porch is a real thing, just that it has such notability that it needs more than a reference in an article on porches. There is only one cited statement in this article, and it simply says that porch sitting is seen as a status
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