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It's not just one source, its taking everything and every source together (Larkin award, wrote a book that is somewhat significant, wrote guest articles for Psychology Today, works with pro sports teams, was drafted by an AFL squad (I know he didn't play for them). I feel based on everything together
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although you can't find individual sources that provide the significant independent non-routine coverage required by that standard. For some reason, I'm reminded of one of my old coaches who said, "If you want to win the high jump you find one person who can jump 7 feet, not 7 people who can jump 1
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I'd say Steinfort is notable while the page itself was poorly written, primarily in the type of references used, which I think would seem tricky when assessing the notability of the subject. I have taken out most of the fluff, reduced promotional tone, removed self-published articles and profiles.
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I've ended this a bit early due to issues with undisclosed paid editors, but fundamentally the issue came down to two arguments. On the one side it was argued that there was coverage of the subject in multiple sources (JC7V, Cr@Z Kit-Kat Lover), while on the other it was argued that none of the
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While I agree that the page needs to be tidied, properly cited and edited for tone; there are plenty of sources available, therefore this page has the potential to be a good addition to the encyclopaedia providing the issues are fixed and all traces of paid editing are removed.
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Sorry, but it seems like you're claiming he's notable because he did lots of different things, although he didn't do any of them well enough to be notable in that field. In addition, you're claiming that lots of routine coverage combined is enough to meet
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The Larke medal is for the under-18 championships and junior awards don't usual confer notability nor does playing for several minor league teams. He was never a head coach just an assistant for different teams so he fails to meet
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For one last time, someone please point two or three of the "many sources showing this subject meets WP:GNG" so that I can see the significant independent coverage of him in reliable sources. People keep claiming he meets
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sources met the requirements for GNG (Papaursa, Sandals1, K.e.coffman, SportingFlyer). In the end, I felt that the concerns raised on the delete side, that the article failed to pass the bar of GNG, were stronger. -
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Doesn't meet any notability standards and I don't believe the sources mentioned are enough to meet the GNG. Success as a junior doesn't usually count for sports notability.
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what a terrible article. Former AFL first round draft pick for Richmond, but was a total draft bust and never played an AFL game. Possible coverage including here, which is
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Many sources showing this subject meets WP:GNG, won a Larke Medal and some significnace from being an author (though probably not meeting WP:Author) so its a pass.
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Added source to show he never played in the AFL for Richmond, despite the article's original claim of playing for them for five years. Doesn't appear to meet
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or any SNG. Coverage is routine sports reporting based on being hired by various teams. Writing an article does not mean he meets
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but the rest appears to be non-NPOV fluff. Watching this but if I don't respond again, read this as a delete vote.
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by working for notable organisations. The level of independent coverage about him is insufficient to meet
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How a dying coach in Australia nudged Paddy Steinfort onto a winding road to the Blue Jays – The Athletic
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I don't think he is notable as an author (his only book is held by just 36 libraries according to
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to be notable and, as I said above, I'm waiting for someone to show me the necessary coverage.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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he barely meets WP:GNG. I feel his inclusion (without the fluff) would be a Net Positive.
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Adelaide staff member to accompany Crows on end-of-season trip to Thailand | Herald Sun
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Fair enough, let's agree to disagree. Thank you for your input and for your vote.
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The day Phil Walsh eulogised his mate Dean Bailey as told by Paddy Steinfort
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The page doesn't clearly meet the notability guidelines for persons
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Blue Jays' Roberto Osuna feeling 'anxious and weird' - Sportsnet.ca
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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