305:: Do note that just because a source is offline or you do not have access to it does not necessarily make it unusable as a source. That being said, the nominator is correct that the one source written by the author is unusable, and the second can't be found. A somewhat thorough search in both English and Bengali returned very little; there are some passing mentions under his alternative name (searches using the article title are clouded as there is a modern professor with the same name), but nothing substantial as far as I can find. This is all in addition to the fact that the article seems to be written in the form of more caste war nonsense. I'm opting to put lean delete because sources
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āĻ¨ā§āĻ¯āĻ¤āĻŽ āĻĒā§āĻ°āĻ§āĻžāĻ¨ āĻ¨āĻžāĻ¯āĻŧāĻ āĻāĻŋāĻ˛ā§āĻ¨ āĻĒāĻā§āĻāĻžāĻ¨āĻ¨ āĻāĻā§āĻ°āĻŦāĻ°ā§āĻ¤ā§" ( "One of the main heroes of this rebellious group was Panchanan Chakraborty") from
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which these sources don't. Additionally, the article is entirely based upon material written by the subject and a text that we have no publishing information about. We have no way of knowing if the
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Pabitrakumar Gupta which I can not even find evidence of its existence ( a google search yielded no further information with no hits in libraries, publishers, etc.) With no publisher given, it's not
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All in, this confirms that he as a person existed, was at least a mid level figure in revolutionary groups and was (is?) fairly well known in Bengal, but the sourcing as far as I could find is just name dropping here and there. There also appears to be multiple other people with the same name
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