545:: the list of hoaxes linked above suggests that we save some well-crafted ones, and this one seems to have slipped under the radar for a while—it's definitely well-crafted. But I could be misinterpreting what I saw. If they can be saved, it obviously shouldn't be in article mainspace, as I understand the terminology (which is barely). What exactly are the criteria, or procedures involved, to the extent that there's at least an informal process? Or is it so informal that there really isn't a "process"
525:. I rechecked five of the references: they are well chosen, but all are false, including the Callimachus. The quoted Greek and Latin is nearly all grammatical but without any spark of life: I selected several phrases from these quotations, searched on Google, and found that none of them occurs anywhere on the Web except in this article and in a few Knowledge (XXG) mirrors. Agree with
387:: aside from the reasons already given, it is suspicious that this poet should be from Messenia, which during this period was controlled by Sparta and its inhabitants effectively enslaved. (And, for completion's sake I checked Laura Swift's recent Companion to Greek Lyric, in which he inevitably does not feature)
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