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336:--::Type in "planet killer" (with speech marks) in normal Google and you'll get 25,600 results. Browsing through just the first few pages of results I'm seeing stuff on Star Trek, Babylon 5 and Star Wars, and I know for a fact that the phrase is used in the computer game Supreme Commander as well - characters say something along the lines of "The UEF are constructing a planet killer, they are calling it Black Sun." So the term planet killer does seem a well-known and widely used term for devices that destroy planets. The term "superweapon" is sometimes used, but that's more associated with powerful attacks in computer games like nuclear missiles or death rays from space, and so superweapon basically just means "weapon of mass destruction". But Planet Killer, on the other hand, means exactly what it says - it kills a whole planet. Since planet killers (both the concept and the actual name) appear in a number of different examples of science fiction, it seems notable enough to me. -- 14:22, 28 August 2007 309:
for the term, two of which (the Ender's Game and the Cold War Pop Culture ones) are science-fiction related. I haven't looked closely enough to see whether they're non-trivial enough for Knowledge (XXG)'s purposes but they're a place to start. (Um, the first is open access, the second will depend
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Babylon 5 may use it and have the most nerdcruft regarding it online, but Star Trek got there first with "The Doomsday machine". The Googel search brings up enough evidence of it's generic use, but what really need to be found if the article is to be kept is a reference to that generic use. Recent
209:). As it goes with these things that's probably going to be easy for the specifics (individual planet killers) and an awful lot harder for the generalitys (showing planet killers in general to be a notable subject), but it shouldn't be impossible. 234:
Find a source establishing the widespread usage of the term is definately priority umber one for sourcing the article. Paradoxically that's a little tricky due to the widespread usage of the term, which swamps internet searches for it with noise.
205:- Planet Killer is the term i've heard the most for Deathstar-like-devices. I think it's reasonable to demand sources for the article, at the moment there are none but nno real effort has been made to push for them (an unreferenced tag was added 426:
Although it would actually be very difficult to destroy a large sphere, it's a science fiction convention that ranks up there with faster than light travel and universal translation devices that make everyone speak English.
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Total original research, from premise to execution. Takes a contrived term ("Planet killer") and then sets about thinking up all the times that a planet has ever been destroyed in the entire history of speculative fiction.
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experience in trying to find sources for this kind of thing has taught me that paper sources are likely to be more fruitfull that online ones, but you'll haver ot be a little patient as that's somewhat timeconsuming.
410:- The term itself is probably not the best, so maybe a new name, but the concept on how to destroy/exterminate a planet is useful information (escpecially when having an argument). Quite a number of notable articles 60:, and possibility of finding sources seems at least plausible. However, the article is clearly unacceptable in its current state, and, if not improved, could be renominated for deletion in a few months or so. — 128: 366:, where the term is per se used? The concept perhaps merits an article, but I wonder if "planet killer" isn't the most neutral name that could be chosen. 310:
on whether your library subscribes. It's getting late here but if no-one else follows these up in a couple of days I'll take another look.) --
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per lack of notability for this term. One fan site, which does not appear to be a reliable source, is not enough to keep this article
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but expand and source. A giant meteorite can be a planet killer and (a couple of bad movies notwithstanding) isn't necessarily sci-fi.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Why on Earth would you expect coverage in Google scholar, to the exclusion of all other available sources? --
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And I completely understand that it won't be taken as read that they do exist until they are found.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The name used for the article isn't as important as the science fiction concept. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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is compelling, but it has been argued that this topic is indeed
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Importance should be deemed by coverage in reliable sources
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I'll gladly change my vote if you can find these sources
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Planet killer
Planet killer
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View log
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01:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
List of fictional weapons of mass destruction
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01:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Dbromage

03:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Shudde
03:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

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