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There appear to be three non-primary sources in the article. What commentary do they provide? You can't just claim they do when there's absolutely no proof in your response or the article. I'm sure they are fine sources for the author's works in general, but how do they help this article in
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analysis on this, none of the keep !votes are helpful in explaining why secondary sources have discussed these enough to create a full article on them, but most of the citations are from the author talking about the universe she created. I have absolutely no idea how this can be considered
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elements that are never discussed in in-depth in non-fiction works. The keep voters claim 'there are good sources' but refuse to discuss them in detail or just vote 'per previous keep argument'. Closing admin should keep in mind AfD=/=vote. This kind of fancruft belongs on wikia, ex.
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What, exactly? “Discuss” is such an open term in these discussions. It can be anything from a name drop, mentioning the locations simply in a retelling of the plot, or enough actual discussion on the individual planets to merit an article.
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Nonsense. Each of the secondary sources goes beyond PLOT retelling; providing critical commentary on the fictional elements is quite sufficient "real world information" per policy. As for what is currently in the article, AFDISNOTCLEANUP.
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for different reasons - one appears to just be part of a fansite, the others, while mentioning a couple of planets as part of their summaries do not discuss the set in any sort of depth.
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Which sources presently in the article provide significant coverage of the topic? Absolutely none of them are used to provide real world information, which is necessary to fulfill
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I looked at the sources, and they discuss the planets the article is about. That suffices, per policy.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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encyclopaedic, and is probably best moved to an entirely different wiki.
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In-universe, non-notable, plot-only minutia better suited to a fan wiki.
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list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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indiscriminate list with a heavy amount of original research.
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