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would be years later like inheritence of a substantive title, archiving something on their own or taking part in "the firm" somehow.) We do not need articles for individuals only listing their name, explaining which title they may use and which are actually used and listing some public appearance together with their parents. This should be in the articles of the parents and a more general on titles in the royal family. We should keep redirects to the more significant parent.
737:. There is a good joke in here somewhere about royals "inheriting" notability, and possibly another between "notability" and "nobility". However, as has been noted above, this person doesn't seem to be very close to the line of succession, and moreover, she was born on September 18. While I do believe this makes her Knowledge's youngest BLP, it's pretty hard to argue for the merit of a biography currently spanning a period of less than a month. 553:
I would propose to delete the articles of the Sussex Children too. There should only be an article on newborn royals if they are princes/princesses and therefore significant members of the royal familiy or if they bear some notability themeself, not only in connection to their parents. (This normally
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I would say delete (possibly with a redirect to her mother once the name is known as suggested). Too far off the direct line of succession to be significant and as an infant does not have notability in her own right. As a great-grandchild of a monarch she may well meet notability in the future, but
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Because they are adults and have established notability through other ways, rather than just being born. Unlike the children of William and Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie's children will never become grandchildren of a monarch, and they are not high up in the line of succession to the throne either.
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That's not enough. Some journalists speculating about what a baby's name might be fails WP:GNG because (1) it's only speculation, and (2) it's a completely trivial matter, an unnamed baby's future name is nothing.
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Sienna outranks the children of the Earl of St Andrews and they all have wikipedia page, she is a direct descendant of Elizabeth II and the late Duke of Edinburgh and deserves her own wikipedia page
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and then redirect her name to her mother's page (once it has been announced). The child of a minor royal who is not expected to be elevated to a higher rank. She has the same level of notability as
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Seems sensible, and the page title is a little confusing anyway. She's not the only Princess Beatrice to have a daughter, as from a quick check of the articles linked to from the page
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The current heir to the throne has long-held aims to reduce the royal family when he becomes king, meaning that this child won't even have a hereditary ceremonial role.
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or a subsection thereof is welcome to do so, though the existing redirect from the full name may be thought sufficient.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Recreate in 20 years when she's won a reality show or been given a cushy corporate post.
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child for whom privacy is a serious concern, where the illusion of
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Well, I had the content added and removed from the main redirect
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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in the sense that their notability cannot be inherited (as per
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notes, it is not unambiguous (it could for instance refer to
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I think this is the correct approach, looking through the
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