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534:, Bottom line, this is a notable topic, but nothing here is rescuable. Well, some of this may be true, but it still requires verification. For what it's worth, I've added this topic to my 'to do' list. Also, just in case anyone cares, some of my Korean students are trying to write an article on Korean proverbs ( 559:
weren't in the way. I already found one interesting source that lists Chinese books of Chinese proverbs that could be used to expand, although I wouldn't be able to type their Hanzi titles in myself. I'm leery of making use of admin delete-and-move tools in an AFD discussion. I'll ask for a
721:. This is no longer the unsourced article that was nominated for deletion, but a completely different one. Having been kept, it could be moved to Chinese Proverb(s). Seems to me it is lacking a section on "Confucius he say", but that might need a lot of policing. 697:
Actually, the first two sentences of the current article were there when you nominated it. Ironically, the second sentence turned out to be directly verifiable from a source that I found — its first page, no less. ☺ Almost all of the stuff below
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and written anew, so this AfD is effectively moot. I fully support renaming to "Chinese proverbs", if the closer feels like doing so, otherwise a technical RM may be needed. --
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09:23, 7 May 2021 (UTC) PS. Please note that the article has been significantly expanded since the nomination. The nominated version looked
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per Uncle G's and DGG's suggestion. Following today's expansion by Uncle G, there's clearly enough content here to warrant an article.
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Rescuable, but why to Chinese Proverb and not Chinese proverbs. Iknow we usually use th singularform, but it sounds strange here.
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edit history could actually be turned into something, with a bit of renaming and refactoring, and might well have begun at
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is, of course, notable (and I may even try to create such an article myself), this weirdly titled and unreferenced
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Personally, I would turn this article inside out and make the subsection the main topic, and then rename to
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is still there. I said that there's stuff that was rescuable, and that the article was inside-out.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I think that there's stuff here that's rescuable, and I'd rename and refactor right now if
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which could be cleaned up into a proper disambiguation page containing both
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that is of no use, containing nothing but redirects, cross-wiki or to
362:. Made more sense in 2008, but was always original research. Related, 538:) and could use friendly feedback (I've already given them mine). 241:
mess featuring an unreferenced template from 2010 needs to go. (
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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A section on a non-existent page? That makes no sense.
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