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The women's competition was discontinued following the RFL revamping the international player pathway process and introducing a National Performance Programme with a focus on talent identification, player skill development, physical competences and the creation of a performance coaching environment
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The 20 references and four external links. I'm not saying that the individual teams are inherently notable, but you will struggle to get the Telegraph to put on a match report for England Students v Lionesses. It is a history of an amateur set of competitions, with sources that are appropriate to
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As stated previously, there are thousands of less notable sports competitions with little to no independent sources of information on wiki. This competition IS notable on account of its status as being for national representative teams and the fact that is is referenced in multiple national and
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I take it you haven't actually checked the sources. Having many footnotes and external links doesn't make something well-sourced. For example, references #6 and #9 are the same, and the source confirms neither of the two statements it's cited for. That's not the only problem by far.
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Its illustrating a different factual point. Not every source on wikipedia has the article title in it. Your earlier comment about sections of prose not being referenced conflicts your point now; this prose is now properly referenced but now you don't accept
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I have issues with pretty much the entire page. In case it's kept (which it should not be, IMO), I'll do some cleanup, ie removal of unsourced, unreliably-sourced and off-topic content. Nothing much will remain, as I said in the nominating statement above.
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Correct the BBC article references the move to Manchester for the England Women's squad. But not every citation needs to reference the competiton, in this example its adding credance to narrative of the evolution of the women's pathway.
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game reports. Multiple sources don't even confirm the specific statements they're cited for. Major parts of the prose don't come with any sources whatsoever, indicating
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This competition is far more notable and better sourced than other sports' competitions that have extensive wikipedia coverage. Examples available on request.
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The article has now had edits from a number of highly regarded Knowledge (XXG) editors, their adoption of which demonstrates the value of the article.
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in advance of the RFL opening a National Rugby League Centre in Manchester which will provide facilities for the England Women's team to train at.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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that. No-one is saying this is the FA Cup, but it is appropriately sourced for what it is.
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regional titles and web sources run by government departments (ministry of defence).
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Can you identify the sources you believe to be unreliable, so I can clarify for you?
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Actually yes, sources need to reference the subject of the article. See
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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