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non-commercial organization. And I don't think it should run it's course, simply because it is by the same person (the aus.rail "Nomen Nescio/George Orwell/Anonymous Sender" character) who has made the last 5 nominations, and that any Railpage article AfD made by him is tainted, and should be nipped in the bud, pronto. If you wish a *proper* AfD, then wait a respectable period of time (say a month or two), and nominate it yourself.
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Oops, sorry. I wasn't aware of the prior AfD history, when I made that suggestion. I only saw a speedy nomination that didn't seem to meet the criteria, and figured a prod would be contested in a matter of minutes, so declined and suggested AfD as the standard forum of appeal. No particular opinion,
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spam. This article has been the subject of an on going edit war 4 AfD nominations and at least 6 CSD tags inside 10 days. It has also been subject to 4 other AFD nominations prior to this round of edit warring. Its also difficult to AGF the nomination by an editor new to this page today (11 Aug).
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Though most of the previous AfDs were closed early as bad faith nominations, making the number of discussions a bit misleading, this nomination has been made by yet another single-purpose account. If it is so pertinent that an administrator recommended taking this to AfD, then that admin is more
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You can certainly argue for a weak delete, as you did in your first sentence. It's just that arguing over content (as you did in your second half) has no real bearing on the debate. The Railpage article is not going to be deleted over whether or not Railpage Australia is a commercial or
262:" Each time you nominate the article for a spurious AfD, you lose more and more credibility, and the chance of the article actually being deleted becomes less and less. You are turning the Fundie Railpage Kiddies into a bunch of people who are being picked on by a bully. 516:
Tezza, an AfD is not the place for a content dispute ("Commercial or non-commercial?"). If you include discussions like that here, you may very well cause the debate to be closed. There is one place for that debate,and that is in the Railpage Talk
351:- single-issue SPA account undermines the credibility of the nomination. All previous nominations have been seriously compromised by SPA's and votestacking; yet, they have all been closed as keep. Multiple sources on the page demonstrate 494:, is technically a "voluntary payment for service". There is no transparent disclosure process where the donated money actually goes, and any "donations" would be classified as income generated by Interactive Omnimedia Pty Ltd 136: 474:
This nomination should be let to run its course. I suspect in the second nomination for deletion there was voting fraud. The later part of the current article is borderline advertising (Digital River) see hosting services
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Whatever the original nominators intentions (i suspect his/her intentions could be the opposite to what people immediately think) I still think this nomination should be run till end,
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I'd just like to note that not only is this IP address an SPA, but it recently edit-warring by invalidly adding a speedy deletion page to this page. --
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Despite weeks to change the text no attempt has been made to clean up the advertising. This is being taken to AFD as recommended by Luna Santin.
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If weak deleted there should be some mention in the article that Railpage is a commercial venture. Railpage seems intertwined with its owner
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and subject to tax. I have even tried to compromise, stating "Commercial - Yes, Free membership, Voluntary payment for service"
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Okay, so I can't argue for a weak delete? I still think the current nomination should run it's course.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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And please stop wasting our time. It seems this page is up for deletion every few days.
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Asking for "donations" by a commercial organization like Railpage Australia
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and a vanity write up with no proper referencing of individuals involved.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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more sockpuppets that this editor has used in the past.
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 260:The first rule of WP:AGF: Don't talk about WP:AGF. 61:) suggestion was in response to the article being 581:). No further edits should be made to this page. 355:. We do not need to go through this again. -- 8: 121:Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (7) 116:Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (6) 111:Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (5) 106:Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (4) 96:Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (2) 460:Oh please, this is getting ridiculous! -- 442:: This debate has been included in the 91:Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia 88: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 444:list of Australia-related deletions 241:and you MUST assume good faith. An 86: 24: 245:recommended taking this to AFD. 488:. To this date they have not. 278:. Refer to the bottom part of 1: 562:09:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 547:09:12, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 537:09:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 522:08:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 509:08:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 465:08:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 453:08:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 432:08:30, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 420:08:30, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 408:08:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 396:07:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 372:07:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 360:07:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 344:07:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 323:07:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 287:08:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 271:08:31, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 250:06:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 234:06:57, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 222:06:56, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 204:06:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 74:10:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC) 598: 574:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 85:AfDs for this article: 458:Speedy close and keep 403:This is ridiculous. 312:few or no other edits 314:outside this topic. 149:Railpage Australia 80:Railpage Australia 447: 315: 220: 589: 576: 438: 394: 387: 369:Recurring dreams 301: 216: 190: 172: 34: 597: 596: 592: 591: 590: 588: 587: 586: 585: 579:deletion review 572: 383: 381: 380:beyond that. – 163: 147: 144: 142: 139: 83: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 595: 593: 584: 583: 567: 566: 565: 564: 552: 551: 550: 549: 539: 527: 526: 525: 524: 480: 479: 468: 467: 455: 435: 434: 422: 410: 398: 374: 362: 346: 327: 326: 325: 300:. not notable 295: 294: 293: 292: 291: 290: 289: 247:Fundie Busters 224: 201:Fundie Busters 197: 196: 143: 141: 140: 135: 133: 128: 123: 118: 113: 108: 103: 98: 93: 87: 84: 82: 77: 44:The result was 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 594: 582: 580: 575: 569: 568: 563: 560: 556: 555: 554: 553: 548: 545: 540: 538: 535: 531: 530: 529: 528: 523: 520: 515: 514: 513: 512: 511: 510: 507: 503: 502: 499: 496: 493: 489: 487: 484: 477: 473: 470: 469: 466: 463: 459: 456: 454: 451: 445: 441: 437: 436: 433: 430: 426: 423: 421: 418: 414: 411: 409: 406: 402: 399: 397: 392: 388: 386: 378: 375: 373: 370: 366: 363: 361: 358: 354: 350: 347: 345: 342: 339: 336: 331: 328: 324: 321: 317: 316: 313: 309: 305: 304:124.190.97.81 299: 296: 288: 285: 281: 277: 274: 273: 272: 269: 265: 261: 257: 253: 252: 251: 248: 244: 243:administrator 240: 237: 236: 235: 232: 228: 225: 223: 219: 215: 211: 208: 207: 206: 205: 202: 194: 188: 184: 180: 176: 171: 167: 162: 158: 154: 150: 146: 145: 138: 134: 132: 129: 127: 124: 122: 119: 117: 114: 112: 109: 107: 104: 102: 99: 97: 94: 92: 89: 81: 78: 76: 75: 72: 69: 64: 60: 57: 54: 50: 47: 46:speedy closed 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 573: 570: 504: 490: 481: 471: 457: 439: 424: 412: 405:Nick mallory 400: 384: 376: 365:Speedy close 364: 349:Speedy close 348: 330:Speedy close 329: 297: 275: 264:Speedy Close 263: 259: 242: 238: 227:Speedy close 226: 209: 198: 55: 45: 43: 31: 28: 472:Weak delete 385:Luna Santin 310:) has made 231:Bongwarrior 49:Luna Santin 353:notability 210:correction 63:WP:CSD#G11 377:Comment: 239:Disagree 214:Tony Fox 193:View log 59:contribs 425:Comment 401:Comment 338:megalon 276:Comment 166:protect 161:history 559:Tezza1 544:Johnmc 534:Tezza1 519:Johnmc 506:Tezza1 462:Canley 450:Canley 298:Delete 284:Johnmc 268:Johnmc 218:(arf!) 170:delete 517:page. 357:Haemo 320:Haemo 254:From 187:views 179:watch 175:links 71:garra 16:< 440:Note 413:Note 391:talk 341:2000 335:Maxa 308:talk 183:logs 157:talk 153:edit 68:Gnan 53:talk 448:-- 446:. 429:KTC 417:KTC 191:– ( 302:— 185:| 181:| 177:| 173:| 168:| 164:| 159:| 155:| 393:) 389:( 306:( 258:" 195:) 189:) 151:( 56:· 51:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Luna Santin
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WP:CSD#G11
Gnan
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Railpage Australia
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (2)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (3rd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (4)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (5)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (6)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (7)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (8th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (9th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Railpage Australia (second nomination)
Railpage Australia
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