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Dustoff pilots were recipients of the Medal of Honor which is not mentioned in the article titled "Casualty evacuation". Those pilots are Capt. Patrick H. Brady and CW3 Michael J. Novosel who are both mentioned in the Center of Military History report. I stand by my previous suggestion. Retitle the article "Rescue of Dustoff 65" to either "Operation Dustoff" or something like "Dustoff - Medical Evacuation in the Vietnam War" and expand on the material. Once that article is started then deleting the lesser events might seem reasonable.
377:] it states " It is almost impossible to capture, in a single word, the enormous impact Dustoff had on the Vietnam War. However, John Cook has done it in a most compelling, sensitive manner. Here, for the first time, is one of the most incredible stories produced by V" Conclusion: The fact that a 175-page book was written on the topic that claims this particular incident had an
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Yes you are correct. There was no intention to misrepresent the book. However as far as I understand
Operation Dustoff and Operation Carentan were not the same operation even if there was some overlap. My suggestion would be to change the title of "Rescue of Dustoff 65" to "Operation Dustoff" and
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476:- There never has been anything called "Operation Dustoff", so re-titling this article to that is not an option. Also we don't rescue an article up for AfD by changing the title, the subject and all the content in it to something totally new. If you think that there should be a new article on
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Dustoff events in Vietnam, I dont see this as being particualy notable in the big scheme of things. If a new Dustoff article was created about the role of Army medivac helicopter in Vietnam it would not really feature.
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