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put against that, however, 3 AfDs in which people decided to go the other way. All of these cases are local consensus, they represent the views of a small number of AfD participants. When comparing consensus reached regarding a community guideline like NSPORTS with consensus on 3 individual AfDs, it seems clear to me that we should go with the more widespread consensus reached at NSPORTS instead of the local consensus you present. --
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pass. This is a player who has played (and is still playing) in the top division of a country where football is one of the major sports, a league which is in the top 50 highest attended in the world (possibly in the top 40 now), and playing for a club ranked third the league's attendance list. No-one
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has 2 sentences about the player ("Laskar Mojopahit sempat unggul lewat Ricky Kambuaya di menit 24 sebelum Kerbau Sirah mampu membalikkan keadaan lewat ..." / "Laskar Mojopahit was ahead through Ricky Kambuaya in the 24th minute before Buffalo Sirah was able to turn things around ..." and "Jamal juga
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It remains unclear where consensus exist to keep articles when they are young and meet NFOOTY but not GNG. NSPORTS (of which NFOOTY is a part) says that all stand-alone articles need to meet the GNG (see my quote above). NSPORTS is a community guideline and represents general community consensus. You
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is a game report with 2 sentences about the player ("Dua gol PSS Sleman dicetak oleh Sidik Saimima dan Ricky Kambuaya" / "Two PSS Sleman goals were scored by Sidik Saimima and Ricky Kambuaya." and "Umpan dari Derry Rachman disambut tendangan langsung oleh Ricky Kambuaya" / "A pass from Derry Rachman
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is 11 sentences with 2 quotes: "Kita banyak kans. Tapi memang belum bisa maksimal. Ini jadi salah satu evaluasi saat nanti pulang ke Mojokerto. Saya yakin kedepan bisa lebih baik lagi" ("We have a lot of chances. But it can't be maximized. This is one of the evaluations when you return to Mojokerto.
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Those were just three recent examples, from February, March and June of this year - numerous others exist if you check the archives. Even if that is the case, completely and randomly disregarding a long held "local" consensus is pretty disruptive. An individual AfD isn't the correct place to discuss
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There's no indication that Kampiun is not a reliable source. There's no indication any of the information in the article is false - or any of their articles! The facts in their article appear elsewhere, and I haven't seen past objections to using Kampiun in other articles. You have to get into some
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The point is that SIGCOV requires us to have enough information to write an actual article, and in this case, I wasn't able to find any information that allows this to be more than just a one-sentence stub. Also, please note that even if the Kampiun.id were SIGCOV, they were not RS per the concerns
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is an interview with the player about a particular game, with 11 sentences plus three quotes from the player, like "Pertandingan kemarin itu berjalan sangat seru sekali" ("The match yesterday was very exciting") and "Iya tentunya sangat motivasi sekali untuk pembuktian kepada keluarga saya yang ada
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I get that you disagree with me on the issue, but I don't get why you're frustrated that there is someone on the internet with a different opinion. My motive is to reduce the number of non-notable footballer BLPs. I think it's a positive motive, but if you want to look at it as a negative motive,
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Even if the Kampiun.id sources are SIGCOV, they are not RS per the reasons given in the table. The bolatimes and jurnalmojo sources are RS but clearly not SIGCOV (and I don't think you are arguing that they are). This is all explained in the table. Could you clarify which sources you believe are
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On one hand you are correct. On the other hand the argument being made that none of the sources for this article can be counted as GNG because they are too short, is completely erroneous and has no basis in policy. I was just astounded to see the contrast from the same editor at the same time!
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league.SNGs including WP:FOOTY ,WP:NCRIC ,WP:NBASKETBALL exist to provide for the inclusion of certain defined subjects that cannot immediately be shown to pass GNG . An SNG provides for a presumption of notability, not a presumption of non-notability An SNG cannot be used to exclude/delete an
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does require the coverage to discuss the subject in detail, which these short articles do not. Also, even if the Kampiun.id sources were to be considered SIGCOV, they are still not reliable per the information in the table (the same goes for Superelja.id). Now, about your last sentence
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is a 6-sentence transfer report with one quote from the player ("Semoga saya bisa memberikan permainan yang terbaik dan membantu PSS Sleman memenuhi target yang diinginkan manajer tim" / "Hopefully I can give the best game and help Sleman PSS meet the target desired by the team
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I wasn't able to find an editorial policy. Also, there is no "about us" page (only a couple sentences at the bottom of every page), so it is unclear who owns and creates articles. Because of this, it is impossible to ensure that there is at all editorial oversight. Thanks,
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di seluruh Papua dan khususnya orang tua saya yang ada di Kota Sorong" ("Yes, of course, it is very motivating to prove to my family throughout Papua and especially my parents who are in Sorong City"). It is not in-depth and gives us almost no information about the player.
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met GNG, despite being 200 to 300 word 10-14 sentence articles. They are as detailed than the Indonesian sources you reject here. Don't point to other sources ... I'm asking about these. Why are those two English sources good, when the Indonesian ones aren't?
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I am sure that in the future it will be better") and "Kami masih yakin bisa naik. Tinggal sekarang berusaha, kerja keras untuk memenangkan setiap pertandingan" ("We are still confident we can go up. It is only now trying, working hard to win every match").
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I'm not sure why many sources that have significant coverage are being tossed out in this exercise, because they are "short" - typically I've seen that point made before with one or two paragraph pieces of a hundred words or so - which is not the case
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In addition, standalone articles are required to meet the General Notability Guideline. The guideline on this page provides bright-line guidance to enable editors to determine quickly if a subject is likely to meet the General Notability
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I see no reason to believe kampiun.id is an unreliable source. Furthermore, there's tons of mentions of him which is what you would expect for someone with 99 career top division games, including other articles on him specifically
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violation - disrupting Knowledge (XXG) to make a point? Changes to policy should be discussed in appropriate forums. I've seen others propose topic bans for repeated violation of this behavioural guideline in the past.
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This is Knowledge (XXG). Disagreement is as common as anything and I'm cool with that, when those involved are helpful. You get hate for your AfD nominations, other editors who nominate don't. Think about it.
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I just dug a bit deeper ... I hadn't realised that only his Jogja team was Liga 1 - and they only recently started their season. Okay, I'll retract the Before comments - it's a much narrower pass of
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article when the subject passes GNG, but the reverse is patently absurd because that would negate the entire reason for the existence of SNGs.Particurly for young players who are currently playing.
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It's a shame you pick and choose which consensus you follow, Levivich. You wonder why fellow editors get frustrated with you, despite your (possibly positive, yet most likely negative) motives.
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Nice sarcasm. He's starting for a team that's only eight games into their season, which averages 20,000 a game, and is well covered in match reports, even if they're not on him specifically.
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I did say "for your", rather than "on your". Anyway, this isn't a suitable place to discuss these things (it's an AfD after all). I've opened a discussion with you via your talk page.
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It took me about three minutes to add prose to the article, even with Google translate. You're trying to disqualify a large swath of Indonesian press coverage for being unreliable.
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Yes, certainly still meeets GNG - and ATH. I'm perplexed why this is an issue. I dare say one wouldn't try and AFD a regular player in the top league in the UK or North America!
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Exactly, and that is why it is disruptive to disregard the text of NSPORTS, which was created based on consensus, and which says that stand alone articles should meet the GNG. --
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would contradict itself. It's an example of what is not significant coverage, involving a high school jazz band, would also allow for a one-sentence (even two sentences) stub:
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menyatakan, ia tidak mengetahui pasti pelanggaran yang dilakukan Ricky Kambuaya" / "Jamal also stated, he did not know for sure the violations committed by Ricky Kambuaya")
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With which part of my comment on Kampiun.id's status as an RS did you disagree? Were you able to find any information on the editorial policy/oversight on the site? --
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very precise and rigid definitions of the rules here to eliminate so many references - and precise and rigid rules aren't how things work here. We are close enough -
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I didn't check, because I got a "This site is not safe" warning when opening the link. At this moment, the 1st and 3rd source are also used in the article itself. --
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would consider nominating a footballer playing in an equivalent league in Europe, so deletion of this article would seems to be a case of systematic bias.
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At this point, this "significant coverage" has lead to a one-sentence stub. Ig being able to write such a stub is enough for something to be SIGCOV, then
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This test is clearly met in many of these articles (and there's more out there). In terms of number of sources, there's no fixed guideline, but GNG says
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This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using
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This is all besides the point. Whether you agree with it or not, it's consensus, at this current time, at NFOOTY to keep a player playing in an
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https://pss-sleman.co.id/id/post/transfer/2019-01-27/rekap-transfer-dalam-sepekan-derry-rachman-haris-tuharea-ricky-kambuaya-dan-jajang-sukmara
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Disruption to fix disruption? Strange solution, I must say. As I mentioned, an individual AfD isn't a suitable place to discuss these things.
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There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected
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Even assuming all these sources are reliable, I don't see any of them as being in-depth enough to count towards GNG; they're all very brief:
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one should support these guidelines. Everyone's time would be better spent improving the article - I'm adding some sources to the article.
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has been met. If only there was more effort to improve the article, rather than building large tables that ignore existing guidelines!
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Unclear editorial policies, etc. No "about us" page exists (for as far as I know), only a small text at the bottom of every page
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failure and waste of time. I get the impression that the concern here surrounds other issues - and this is not the right place.
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It's not a "large swath of Indonesian press", it's one news site (kampiun.id) and 2 fan blogs that I see as unreliable. --
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is met, why you persist in wasting everyone's time with a nomination that should never have happened given the player met
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If only there was more effort to improve the article, rather than building large tables that ignore existing guidelines!
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Only 8 sentences, not in-depth – only says that the subject wasn't able to vote in an election (not really in-depth).
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Worst of all, that you continue to waste everyone's time by not retracting a nomination for someone who easily meets
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Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material
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requires there to be enough coverage for us to write an article on him without doing any original research. That's
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11 sentences, not in-depth – routine coverage of the football club with 2 quotes from the subject (not in-depth).
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has been met in my opinion. I disagree with you, and I don't believe that we should be nominating articles that
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It is a fan blog, and it is unclear if the creators are independent from the football club Kambuaya plays for.
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https://www.bolatimes.com/bolaindonesia/2019/01/31/193255/pss-sleman-unggul-atas-barito-putra-di-babak-pertama
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to satisfy GNG. I'm coming up with brief mentions, game reports, transfer reports. The best I could find are
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Levivich contradicted themselves, that does not mean that their argument here is wrong. This seems like a
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Simple match report, only mentions that the player scored a goal and that he was involved in some fouls.
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independent, reliable with SIGCOV by listing at least 2 sources that meet these 3 requirements? Thanks,
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https://kampiun.id/nasional/04/jarak-ke-rumah-sekitar-2418-km-gelandang-pss-sleman-ini-terpaksa-golput/
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by some distance. Needs improving, not deleting, especially as he is young and career is ongoing.
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is wrong in claims that it must be a certain length. And I think they are wrong in claiming that
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https://kampiun.id/nasional/01/batal-gabung-borneo-fc-ricky-kambuaya-sepakati-tawaran-pss-sleman/
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That a source must be in-depth and not trivial is a key part of SIGCOV/GNG, and is explained at
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Routine transfer report that only says that Mr. Kambuaya played "impressively" at another club.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Can you clarify why you are arguing that these 13-sentence articles are too short, when at
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It's consensus to allow a player playing in an FPL-listed league to be kept, you know this
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Editorial policy, address, and other information about the source present on the website.
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fallacy. As such, I suggest such discussions can be held at the talk page of Levivich. --
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in the first place - which is unnecessarily disruptive and a waste of everyone's time.
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you have sinced argued that similar length 10-14 sentence articles are proof of GNG?
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https://kampiun.id/nasional/05/ini-kata-ricky-kambuaya-soal-dua-laga-mojokerto-putra/
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is a high school jazz band. President Bill Clinton has been a member of the band.
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Passes NFOOTY. For current/young players, leeway is given while they appear in
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Voting delete against consensus, because things might change? Isn't that a
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yielding over 500 recent results (with Ricky showing up everywhere) with
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Only 13 sentences, not in-depth – routine transfer report, not in-depth.
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I'm completely perplexed why with such overwhelming evidence here that
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The website is owned by the football club Mr. Kambuaya plays for. See
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and subject is 23 year old and currently playing and last played on
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is 13 sentences, the longest I've found, but still not in depth.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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for a more targeted Google web search would have avoided this
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instead of trying to establish new policy make it clear that
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Unclear editorial policy, no "about us" page, our article
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A fan Blogspot with unclear editorial policies/oversight.
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no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability
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The 13-sentence article listed above is 1218:links to Sleman-Football.com as a "Fans site" 1206:links to Sleman-Football.com as a "Fans site" 303:list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions 1813:] hasn't been met with these SIGCOV sources. 283:list of Football-related deletion discussions 8: 646:I don't see any hate in my AfD nominations. 107:Help, my article got nominated for deletion! 728:Note: This discussion has been included in 877: 387:-listed leagues - as Ricky Kambuaya does ( 300: 280: 260: 241:, I seriously doubt this article matches 560:- all of which are recorded on your own 2080:NFOOTY games now, is he? 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