534:. They're all listed in the chart under the header "Number of People Killed in Deadly Attacks in the Post-9/11 Era, by Ideology". It's possible to dispute whether that source's assessment that those people are terrorists with far-right ideology is precisely the same as being a far-right terrorist, but that seems like the sort of thing which should be solved through our normal mechanisms. At any rate, the fact that it's possible to dispute whether some entries on the list really should be included is not really a compelling argument that the article as a whole needs deletion.
516:. I don't see how an incident stemming from an argument over a dog urinating in a house has political ramifications. There's also no sources listed for either of these on the list: Murder committed by John Ditullio, Murder of homeless man by Aryan Soldiers, Tri-state killing spree by white supremacists David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby, Murder of MeShon Cooper-Williams, Murders of Danny and Deanna Lorenzo and Black man burned by White supremacist.
662:, It is well cited and for reasons stated above it seems to be an insightful article that maintains a general NPOV. To force the mountains of context and citations for left and right wing terrorism into one space, "political terrorism", could lead to more disputes about prominence, pecking order and so forth. Not to mention it would be a pain to read if you are only looking for one or the other.
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lot of the rest of the world (the other 7.5 billion of us) would probably say that both US parties are very definitely hard-right. It's all a matter of perspective. So when you start calling things "left-wing" or "right-wing", whether you like it or not you're taking a perspective. There is no objective position on this.
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There can be no doubt that the subject is notable. I don't see any point in merging it as it's a notable subject in its own right. I agree with those suggesting it should not be used as a list but just include a few notable examples. It needs to be sourced on multiple clearly reliable sources.
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