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473:, there are two Korean-language encyclopedia articles on this individual. That is not a passing mention. Not only that, he held the the office of Prince/King of Sim/Shen (various ways to translate it), which was a major office in Goryeo-Yuan politics, and had authority over the Koreans who lived in the Yuan-controlled Liaodong area. There were various attempts to place Wang Toqto'a-Buqa on the throne of Goryeo, he wasn't just a random noble prince, but an influential prince with power and influence, who nearly became king in at least two attempts. 326: 287:. Cannot find any sources on GBooks, Google (except for WP mirror content), Archive.org, or anywhere else that turns up any result at all for any of the romanization options given or Hangul/Hanja script provided. I doubt it's a 204: 313:. I removed the PROD after finding plenty of sources on this individual especially in Korean. This is most likely due to the various different spellings of his name. Here in this Korean translation of the 660:, clearly passes GNG per CountHacker's sources, and the two encyclopedia's entries alone are more than enough to establish notability. The redirect comments should be disregarded, the first one ( 256: 532:
says: "Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and avoid novel interpretations of primary sources." Tertiary sources can be used to establish notability.
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published by the National Institute of Korean History he is listed as both "독타불화" and "톡타부카". Individual has Encyclopedia of Korean Culture article
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just leaves a contradictory and illogical rationale. The second one, claiming that individual entries on established encyclopedias such as
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redirect if no sources to validate notability can be found 20 years since this article was created.
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per sources presented above. Other encyclopedias having an entry is a good sign we should as well.
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is that tertiary sources are perfectly fine in establishing notability. Editors cited the policy
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sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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changing the delete vote to redirect after sourcing has been provided
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are mostly simple passing mentions and do not help in establishing
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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per the significant coverage in reliable sources found by
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by David M. Robinson as "Toqto'a-Buqa" as well as in
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Relisting, opinion divided between Redirect and Keep
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Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia under the Mongols
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