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576:. There is no evidence this was a settlement or had legal recognition of any kind, its just a couple of buildings to support a mine. Even if there was some evidence people lived here, WP:GEOLAND states populated places without legal recognition are evaluated based on GNG and there is not SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth required by GNG. No objection to delete, but redirects are cheap.
350:. Just being a former settlement doesn't quite cut it, as GEOLAND requires the community to have been legally recognized at some point in its existence to be notable. There's just no indication that this place ever had legal recognition as a community. Appearing on a map isn't enough, and there's a strong consensus over the course of many AFDs that the GNIS reference doesn't cut it - see the essay
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389:. West Baker was at best an interim name of a mine and the locale West Baker is not notable, or is superseded by another article. I found no evidence of any settlement at this locale, I found no articles about "so and so living, dying or visiting West Baker". West Baker is not listed in
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491:: could you explain why you relisted instead of deleting or redirecting? I see that perhaps my "Merge or Delete" muddied the consensus, it would help me know how better to annotate these votes.
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