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782:(pinged) - even after all the good-faith improvements the article has only 1 good source, Klobas' short description of the Wiki in ref #11. Everything else are passing mentions or other thin - only loosely-related - sources. Being academic is not enough, sources to establish notability need to be reliable 805:
I was pinged as well but wanted to wait for someone else more insightful to comment before I did. I agree King's bio is a good choice for this to redirect to per the reasons outlined above. I was not too impressed with the new sources in all honesty, but since I had no access I had to only go based
610:). Just mentioning it for clarity: non-notable topics are usually not included in large lists without some clear evidence of likely notability - the very point this discussion has failed to provide yet. The topic's alleged "importance" has not been verified (see also 56:. Consensus is to delete or redirect, including among votes which were submitted after some additional citations were added early in this debate. Among such comments, the consensus leans towards a redirect or merge rather than a deletion. 894:, but that is a list of notable wikis. Closing as redirect is tantamount to declaring it non-notable and will result in the list entry being removed. That will just leave a worthless redirect that will likely be eventually deleted. 345:. The only 2 relevant sources in terms of "notability" (as Knowledge (XXG) uses the term) are ref #3 and ref #11. The rest are simple listings or self-published. But ref #3 is also just a passing mention. And ref #11 uses the index 564:
I probably worded that weird. I don't mean it's required for attribution, but I meant to say like non-WMF wikis might have incoming links and such. My main point is that redirects are cheap, and this one might be worth it.
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to a short mention in King's bio might be a better solution. The topic is certainly noteworthy enough for a mention in a related article, even if it's not fully notable for a stand-alone article (per Wiki's definition).
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would be a good link to. I do worry about a lot of outside links because of the importance this page has on a technical level for outside wikis. Just my two-cents.
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Not sure if this will change anyone's !vote but take a look at it now: Fa suisse has some decent citations. More of an edge case now in my estimation. ―
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Not sure that I understand the problem of attribution: if you have ] and it's deleted on en.wp how is that different than having (e.g.)
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which don't have a dedicated article but redirect. In any case I'll try to add a paragraph on WikiIndex to
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I have added, since the beginning of this deletion discussion, three academic references to the topic (
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URI goes down at some point in the future? I mean, this is just something that happens with URIs.
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09:14, 31 May 2019 (UTC) PS. I like the idea of soft delete to list of wikis as proposed below. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1974&context=edissertations
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and wanted to make sure my attribution link was directing to the right page.
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because of lack of significant references in 3rd party sources.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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now. Seems substantially referenced. What do others think? ―
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as a primary source in 2 short sentences, but has no
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