352:: the Hesse family are as intermarried with the reigning and defunct royalty of Europe as the Windsors (e.g. Prince Philip's sister married into the Hesses'; last Empress of Russia was Alex of Hesse, etc etc), and sorting out who is who can be a nightmare, so having an article like this for a current member is valuable. Hesse family members rock up at British royal occasions, and their marriages and funerals are still covered in the tabloid press, so this helps provide background information. Wishing its deletion isn't aiding Knowledge: it's an insidious, informationally-destructive, 'chippy' form of cancel culture.
335:- when you strip away all the historical context, all we have is the naming of his parents, the details of his marriage, the names of his children, and the attribution to him of an obscure title, itself non-notable, that hasn't existed in the real world for 150 year. This is just a genealogical entry. He exists. Good for him, but WP:GNG requires a great deal more than mere existence.
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