546:, let me clarify that all your nominations are legitimate and valid for me (and in fact I concur with your reasons in most of them), and I don't think at all that you operated in bad faith. However, if I were the nominator and I would notice a pattern similar to what I described above, I wouldn't keep on nominating new articles for deletion, even if they clearly deserve deletion. I'd rather talk with the author for reaching a compromise, or if this doesn't get anywhere I'd seek for third opinions or the advice of other contributors, in order to reach a broader consensus.
642:. Let's consider the Taverna List: what's relevant on this page? The first two lines merely state that the list existed. The third line shows the (poor) result of 2003 provincial election, which can be seen directly from the page of the provincial election itself. The fourth and fifth lines do not refer to the party, but to Claudio Taverna's subsequent political career (without success). Would you consider it disruptive to submit a page like this for deletion?--
513:
Checco, but not only by him, there is nothing personal about all of this. I am proposing the pages for deletion only after evaluating their content, the author is irrelevant to me. It is simply necessary to slightly thin out the number of pages of parties, to make the list of
Italian parties more usable in the future. Indeed, I think to have proposed for deletion only pages objectively not relevant for an encyclopedia. --
565:
greatness lies specifically in gathering and organizing infos which would be difficult to find elsewhere." I am an inclusionist but I am aware that
Knowledge (XXG) cannot cover everything. And the only way to involve other users, in this case, seems to me the Afd procedure. I don't think we have to push ourselves to re-discuss
637:
I think this whole situation needs to be cleared up once and for all: we already knew that a considerable number of pages were created years ago that could meet
Knowledge (XXG)'s minimum standards of notability, and we also knew that most of these were created by one user. If on the one hand it would
512:
I think you totally misunderstood my intentions. I am definitely not proposing pages for deletion based on the author! Since the list of
Italian parties will have to be completed in the future, I am simply proposing for deletion the pages that do not seem relevant to me. Many of these were created by
622:
Insinuating that these AFDs are a spill-over from the previous dispute is insulting towards me. What's disruptive in proposing the deletion of pages (whose authors are more than one) of three/five lines, can you explain it to me? These Afd had already been planned for some time, the proponent of the
233:
It was just a personal electoral list created unsuccessfully by
Claudio Taverna for the provincial and municipal elections in Trento in 2003 and 2005. The few subsequent information attributed to the party (support for La Destra and adhesion to the Pensioners Party) in reality seem to be inherent to
475:, covering a minor and rather obscure Italian political party. Almost all nominated articles generally cover parties with limited territorial diffusion, very short lifespan and which have obtained a low number of votes (sometimes lower than 1%) and which didn't elect any representative at any level.
623:
topic ban himself said that I could have started the afd procedures ("they may edit in any related areas such as more specific lists of parties, or AFDs to delete parties not having a reliable source, or any other topic."), they were part of a well-defined procedure, read if you don't believe it!--
527:
Ps. I have chosen all the pages to be proposed for deletion before verifying the author (indeed he is not the only author of the pages I have proposed for deletion). However, if a user has created a considerable number of unimportant pages in the past, I don't think this can be a deterrent from
284:
Every little piece of political history deserves a space in
Knowledge (XXG), whose greatness lies specifically in gathering and organising infos which would be difficult to find elsewhere. This regional political party was represented in the Provincial Council of Trentino and participated in a
564:
Well, I would be sorry if anyone thought I'm not in good faith. However, I have no idea how to deal with this issue, other than via Afd. After all, Checco's position is clear and he reiterates it in every Afd: "Every little piece of political history deserves a space in
Knowledge (XXG), whose
477:
Although I believe that the reasons for these nominations are valid and that
Knowledge (XXG) is not an indiscriminate collection of everything, it seems to me that all these nominations are part of an ongoing dispute between two only users. I would like to call both
598:
despite what is being said above. It appears to me that if the editors aren't willing to learn and continue with disruptive behaviour despite a narrow TBAN being in place, perhaps the original decision should be revisited. Pinging the blocking admin -
289:
clearly benefit of this link. The article is properly sourced. Of course, it is not easy to find more sources on an old minor political party, but it is very important that
Knowledge (XXG) keeps having articles also on little-known subjects.
638:
not be fair naming pages for deletion based on their author (which I am not doing at all), on the other hand it would not be equally fair to consider the fact that many pages were created by the same user as a deterrent:
460:
569:. In any case, I don't think this is the right place to address this topic, but if you have any ideas about the resolution of the issue, please to expose them to me in another seat (in my talk page, for example).--
202:
424:
444:
656:
I can't change the topic ban unilaterally, and the current topic ban is very narrow so I don't see any violation. If you think there should be a IBAN or a ban from AfDs etc you can propose that at
464:
428:
412:
286:
448:
255:
595:
566:
487:
432:
456:
420:
259:
159:
196:
436:
416:
263:
452:
440:
234:
Claudio
Taverna himself. The sources on this list, apart from the poor election results, are non-existent. No encyclopedic relevance is deduced from the page.
91:
106:
251:
490:. I don't think that nominating for deletion all the articles created by one person is a constructive way to build consensus... Thanks to all.
86:
79:
17:
132:
127:
136:
100:
96:
217:
119:
184:
688:
40:
647:
628:
574:
533:
518:
327:, but as there is no standalone article for Claudio Taverna on en.wiki (at least not yet), I come down on the side of
239:
163:
178:
643:
624:
570:
543:
529:
514:
479:
468:
235:
350:
Minor political party, no lasting effect. No sources found in Engilsh, can't comment on other languages.
174:
684:
669:
651:
632:
609:
578:
555:
537:
522:
499:
401:
380:
359:
340:
316:
299:
275:
243:
61:
36:
123:
224:
665:
355:
336:
271:
210:
486:
to trying to sort their differences out in another manner, like for instance proposing updates on
368:
115:
67:
312:
371:: the fact that a party exists/existed doesn't mean it deserves an article in Knowledge (XXG).
75:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
683:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
295:
57:
657:
285:
provincial election. If the article is deleted, its contents will be lost. Readers reading
551:
495:
397:
376:
190:
411:
I realized that this Afd nomination is the 15th recurrence (the previous instances are:
661:
600:
351:
332:
267:
619:
604:
308:
153:
483:
472:
291:
53:
561:
547:
509:
491:
393:
389:
372:
640:
if a topic is not encyclopedic, it is not, regardless of who created the page
567:
the current policies and notability criteria for political parties
488:
the current policies and notability criteria for political parties
367:- 1) local/regional party, with local notability only at most; 2)
679:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
149:
145:
141:
287:
2003 Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol provincial elections
209:
223:
596:Special:PermaLink/1087724241 this May 2022 dispute
43:). No further edits should be made to this page.
691:). No further edits should be made to this page.
250:Note: This discussion has been included in the
8:
107:Help, my article got nominated for deletion!
249:
331:, in order to preserve the information.--
18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
7:
24:
594:This is simply a spill-over from
471:nominated an article, created by
528:proposing them for deletion...--
254:lists for the following topics:
92:Introduction to deletion process
1:
82:(AfD)? Read these primers!
708:
670:02:19, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
652:20:46, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
633:20:29, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
610:16:44, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
402:14:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
62:15:48, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
681:Please do not modify it.
579:22:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
556:09:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
538:15:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
523:14:52, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
500:13:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
381:08:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
360:15:13, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
341:09:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
317:12:49, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
300:14:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
276:14:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
244:14:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
32:Please do not modify it.
369:no inherent notability
164:edits since nomination
80:Articles for deletion
644:Scia Della Cometa
625:Scia Della Cometa
571:Scia Della Cometa
544:Scia Della Cometa
530:Scia Della Cometa
515:Scia Della Cometa
480:Scia Della Cometa
469:Scia Della Cometa
278:
236:Scia Della Cometa
97:Guide to deletion
87:How to contribute
699:
252:deletion sorting
228:
227:
213:
157:
139:
77:
34:
707:
706:
702:
701:
700:
698:
697:
696:
695:
689:deletion review
170:
130:
114:
111:
74:
71:
48:The result was
41:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
705:
703:
694:
693:
675:
674:
673:
672:
654:
635:
613:
612:
588:
587:
586:
585:
584:
583:
582:
581:
525:
503:
502:
476:
405:
404:
383:
362:
345:
344:
343:
323:Would suggest
320:
319:
307:i fully agree
279:
231:
230:
167:
110:
109:
104:
94:
89:
72:
70:
65:
46:
45:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
704:
692:
690:
686:
682:
677:
676:
671:
667:
663:
659:
655:
653:
649:
645:
641:
636:
634:
630:
626:
621:
617:
616:
615:
614:
611:
608:
607:
602:
597:
593:
590:
589:
580:
576:
572:
568:
563:
559:
558:
557:
553:
549:
545:
541:
540:
539:
535:
531:
526:
524:
520:
516:
511:
507:
506:
505:
504:
501:
497:
493:
489:
485:
481:
474:
470:
466:
462:
458:
454:
450:
446:
442:
438:
434:
430:
426:
422:
418:
414:
410:
407:
406:
403:
399:
395:
391:
387:
384:
382:
378:
374:
370:
366:
363:
361:
357:
353:
349:
346:
342:
338:
334:
330:
326:
322:
321:
318:
314:
310:
306:
303:
302:
301:
297:
293:
288:
283:
280:
277:
273:
269:
265:
261:
257:
256:Organizations
253:
248:
247:
246:
245:
241:
237:
226:
222:
219:
216:
212:
208:
204:
201:
198:
195:
192:
189:
186:
183:
180:
176:
173:
172:Find sources:
168:
165:
161:
155:
151:
147:
143:
138:
134:
129:
125:
121:
117:
113:
112:
108:
105:
102:
98:
95:
93:
90:
88:
85:
84:
83:
81:
76:
69:
66:
64:
63:
59:
55:
51:
44:
42:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
680:
678:
639:
605:
591:
408:
385:
364:
347:
328:
324:
304:
281:
232:
220:
214:
206:
199:
193:
187:
181:
171:
116:Taverna List
73:
68:Taverna List
49:
47:
31:
28:
467:) in which
197:free images
390:User:P1221
685:talk page
666:pingó mió
662:Galobtter
601:Galobtter
352:Oaktree b
333:Autospark
268:Shellwood
37:talk page
687:or in a
620:HighKing
606:HighKing
309:Braganza
260:Politics
160:View log
101:glossary
39:or in a
592:Comment
409:Comment
262:, and
203:WP refs
191:scholar
133:protect
128:history
78:New to
658:WP:ANI
484:Checco
473:Checco
386:Delete
365:Delete
348:Delete
292:Checco
175:Google
137:delete
54:Stifle
50:delete
562:P1221
548:P1221
510:P1221
492:P1221
394:Yakme
373:P1221
325:merge
282:Keep.
264:Italy
218:JSTOR
179:books
154:views
146:watch
142:links
16:<
648:talk
629:talk
575:talk
552:talk
534:talk
519:talk
496:talk
482:and
398:talk
388:per
377:talk
356:talk
337:talk
329:keep
313:talk
305:keep
296:talk
272:talk
240:talk
211:FENS
185:news
150:logs
124:talk
120:edit
58:talk
225:TWL
158:– (
668:)
660:.
650:)
631:)
603:.
577:)
554:)
536:)
521:)
498:)
465:14
463:,
461:13
459:,
457:12
455:,
453:11
451:,
449:10
447:,
443:,
439:,
435:,
431:,
427:,
423:,
419:,
415:,
400:)
392:.
379:)
358:)
339:)
315:)
298:)
290:--
274:)
266:.
258:,
242:)
205:)
162:|
152:|
148:|
144:|
140:|
135:|
131:|
126:|
122:|
60:)
52:.
664:(
646:(
627:(
618:@
573:(
560:@
550:(
542:@
532:(
517:(
508:@
494:(
445:9
441:8
437:7
433:6
429:5
425:4
421:3
417:2
413:1
396:(
375:(
354:(
335:(
311:(
294:(
270:(
238:(
229:)
221:·
215:·
207:·
200:·
194:·
188:·
182:·
177:(
169:(
166:)
156:)
118:(
103:)
99:(
56:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.