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very bad thing. Since editors generally only edit one article, articles very quickly diverge, and inconsistencies appear. With two separate articles there is no way to avoid inconsistencies as the history of
Telewest is directly relevant to Virgin Media. The pre-merger "lowest common denominator" of consensus of having a link to Telewest#History in NTL's history section was frankly quite silly.
228:: IMHO the argument for keeping the old articles is flawed. The article as currently stands has more in common with Virgin Media than Telewest as this article had previously changed to reflect the harmonisation of products with NTL that occured long before the rebrand. Secondly, as I have previously said Virgin Media
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146:. Was once a listed London cable franchisee which was caught up in the dot.com bubble. The name will mean something to a lot of Londoners and shareholders. Why does it need to be deleted prior to establishing redirect?
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