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454:. 3. I could not merge the articles because a) I have never read the short story in question and b) removing the original research portions would have left nothing. 4. The curse (or blessing) of a photographic memory is knowing that one has read material before, but not usually knowing where. This problem is exacerbated by the ever-changing nature of Knowledge. I did a thorough search for the other articles I know I read on this short story, but was unable to find them. I realise that this means that they have probably been deleted and I searched for them in the deleted articles area as well. 5. I reiterate that I have no problem with a well-written, reliably sourced article on this short story. However, these essays are none of the three. 411:-- Nominator says he or she nominated similar articles for deletion. So, where are the discussion for those deletions. As DGG points out deletion should be based on the merits of the topic -- not the current state of the article. As DGG points out the topic of Hemingway's story merits inclusion. If a series of weak articles about the story were created, under a bunch of different names, why didn't the nominator recognize that the topic itself merited inclusion? Why didn't the nominator initiate 339:
Sorry, I don't have to look in a database to know that a Hemingway story is notable. The article is still a personal essay. While I probably don't know as much about Knowledge policy as I should, you don't have to assume that a. I needed to look and b. I didn't. Fault me for lack of WP knowledge, but
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I, too, have no problem with an article on this short story and if I thought either article was salvagable I would have tagged them as such and not brought them to AfD. However, neither of these essays are the article we need. Also, if the short story was not notable I would have PRODed them before
321:, of which about half are criticism. Several of the items there are academic articles specifically devoted to the story. Obviously the article must be improved, butt he references show that it is possible . Why did none of the people above even think to look for references? 376:
While the short story is definitely notable and worthy of an article, this is definitely a personal essay, one which has no possibility of being salvaged as an article. No prejudice here should someone want to write an article on the story.
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1. The process for nominating multiple articles for deletion for the same reason is to generate a single discussion page and list the articles (see
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This article appears to be part of a school assignment as there have been other articles recently on the same short story. The articles are full of
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bringing to AfD. What I was picking up was a series of essays on this short story. I'm sure there have been others, but I can't now find them.
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for The Hemingway story "Mr. and Mrs. Elliot,” which has sufficient criticism that it should be notable. 75 hits in GScholar
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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earlier, but I don't know how to see if the author is the same as either of these - but I suspect not.
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and unreferenced opinion and analysis. I have added the other articles that I can find today below.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
301:--right, this is what passes for a researched paper these days. 180: 176: 172: 111: 100: 96: 92: 264:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 486:). No further edits should be made to this page. 423:-- definite keep for the reasons given above. 234:list of Literature-related deletion discussions 8: 284:This is a personal essay, not an article. 340:not for common sense, please. Thank you, 141:I can only find one other at the moment: 232:: This debate has been included in the 48:. without any prejudice to recreation 7: 24: 394:Agreed; this is not an article. 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 220:09:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC) 198:08:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC) 137:08:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC) 464:08:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC) 433:01:48, 9 December 2008 (UTC) 404:17:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC) 387:03:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC) 365:07:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC) 350:01:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC) 333:01:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC) 311:15:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC) 294:15:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC) 274:14:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC) 249:20:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC) 53:13:07, 9 December 2008 (UTC) 206:deleted another version of 503: 479:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 147:Mr. and Mrs. Elliot 44:The result was 276: 251: 237: 125:original research 494: 481: 263: 261: 238: 228: 202:Just found that 188: 170: 114: 108: 90: 34: 502: 501: 497: 496: 495: 493: 492: 491: 490: 484:deletion review 477: 257: 204:User:NawlinWiki 161: 145: 110: 81: 65: 62: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 500: 498: 489: 488: 471: 469: 468: 467: 466: 451:one discussion 436: 435: 418: 414:one discussion 406: 389: 370: 369: 368: 367: 336: 335: 313: 296: 278: 277: 262: 254: 253: 252: 225: 224: 223: 222: 121: 120: 61: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 499: 487: 485: 480: 474: 473: 472: 465: 461: 457: 456:Beeswaxcandle 453: 452: 447: 443: 440: 439: 438: 437: 434: 430: 426: 422: 419: 416: 415: 410: 407: 405: 401: 397: 393: 390: 388: 384: 380: 375: 372: 371: 366: 362: 358: 357:Beeswaxcandle 353: 352: 351: 347: 343: 338: 337: 334: 330: 326: 325: 320: 317: 314: 312: 308: 304: 300: 297: 295: 291: 287: 283: 282:Strong Delete 280: 279: 275: 271: 267: 260: 256: 255: 250: 246: 242: 235: 231: 227: 226: 221: 217: 213: 212:Beeswaxcandle 209: 205: 201: 200: 199: 195: 191: 190:Beeswaxcandle 186: 182: 178: 174: 169: 165: 160: 156: 152: 148: 144: 143: 142: 139: 138: 134: 130: 129:Beeswaxcandle 126: 118: 113: 106: 102: 98: 94: 89: 85: 80: 76: 72: 68: 64: 63: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 478: 475: 470: 450: 449: 441: 420: 413: 412: 408: 391: 373: 322: 315: 298: 281: 258: 229: 140: 122: 45: 43: 31: 28: 316:Strong keep 208:The Elliots 67:The Elliots 59:The Elliots 446:WP:BUNDLE 379:Redfarmer 286:Edward321 266:Redfarmer 241:• Gene93k 425:Geo Swan 396:Luinfana 117:View log 409:Comment 374:Delete. 164:protect 159:history 84:protect 79:history 392:Delete 342:Drmies 303:Drmies 299:Delete 168:delete 112:delete 88:delete 50:Secret 46:delete 442:Reply 185:views 177:watch 173:links 115:) – ( 105:views 97:watch 93:links 16:< 460:talk 429:talk 421:Keep 400:talk 383:talk 361:talk 346:talk 329:talk 307:talk 290:talk 270:talk 245:talk 230:Note 216:talk 194:talk 181:logs 155:talk 151:edit 133:talk 101:logs 75:talk 71:edit 324:DGG 239:-- 236:. 462:) 431:) 402:) 385:) 363:) 348:) 331:) 309:) 292:) 272:) 247:) 218:) 196:) 183:| 179:| 175:| 171:| 166:| 162:| 157:| 153:| 135:) 103:| 99:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 77:| 73:| 458:( 427:( 398:( 381:( 359:( 344:( 327:( 305:( 288:( 268:( 243:( 214:( 192:( 187:) 149:( 131:( 119:) 109:( 107:) 69:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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The Elliots
The Elliots
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Beeswaxcandle
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08:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Mr. and Mrs. Elliot
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