773:- I voted above to delete due to weak sources, but my search seems to have been complicated by the fact that the band's name is the same as a historical event. The sources proposed here by TGLForward are mostly useful, though some are more about the band's leader than the band itself. In any case, if that person is willing to enhance the article then it should be keep-able. ---
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which was created by the band themselves. Only aspects of notability might be the fact that the founder was a part of a previous notable band (Big Flame), and they have released albums on a label which seems notable (although, to be fair, I have never heard about this band, Big Flame or the record label before, but that's just me).
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about this band, that's the first time I have heard about them. He asked me about the exact name of this band, and asked me about their notability. I answered that they don't seem notable and an Afd should be started, which wasn't started, so I started it, here we go. Article about an unnotable band
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Hi! Thanks for the new sources and the name change! These look great, especially the major magazine coverages. The other sources look fine too, except the blogspot ones and lastfm, which are not reliable (though they are good for the "external links" section). By the way, write at the bottom of the
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The article "Great Leap
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So what I can do is provide you with references from reviews and interviews over time about this band from
British and European music media such as NME, Sounds etc., and as this band has a new album out later this year then I expect there to be further references available.
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In summary, I only wished to update an article that has been living quite happily on Wiki for over 12 years. If I went about this is in the wrong manner, then I can only apologise. Please advise what steps I need to take to avoid this page being deleted.
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Here are some further links – I know not all hit your criteria for notability, but just showing you that this band has some history and continuity over the years even though you may not have heard of it:
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Ghostdestroyer100 requested more references for this band, which Michig seems to have found some. Here are some more from pre-internet days, with photographic evidence of all available should you require:
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