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recent car accident will be followed by a speedy recovery, but it is one example of how a film might be disrupted by events beyond the filmmakers' control). We've seen a lot of projects fall by the wayside at the last minute, so this is the only way of ensuring that this place doesn't get clogged with stubby articles about films which were never made and thus would ultimately fail the
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recommends that a stand-alone article for a film should not be created until a project enters production. This is for very good, practical reasons. Budget issues, scripting issues, and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date (hopefully, Morgan Freeman's
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I believe there is a rule called the crystal ball. You can't make a page for something that doesn't exist yet, even if you get notable coverage of it in reliable third party sources.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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since the last AfD and will proudly bring it to mainspace when it can be happily sourced. Nothing is lost.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I tried to save the article but after about 5 pages of Google hits, there's no news that
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per the nominator's thorough argument. I would recommend a possible mention at
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Makes sense to me... and any who have suggestions for improvement to the "
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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for now. I got a better version of this article saved in a
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