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Personal attacks of the nature shown above are specifically prohibited. Moreover, I have no idea how any fundamentalist agenda, mine or anyone else's would have any bearing whatsoever on this matter. The musical group simply does not meet
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Will try to assemble as much "proof" as possible but independent radio charts are largely compiled through CMJ. A paid service. And these stations are all extremely well known. You really seem to be trying hard on this one.
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No, it doesn't. The mentions max out at three paragraphs for the longest one, which doesn't qualify as non-trivial. Blogs are not considered reliable sources. (And would you please sign in and sign your posts,
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