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689:, and the artist is not Da Vinci or Picasso, but it is still a substantial work by a notable artist, held by a fairly significant public collection. Sources in English are thin, but then this is a painting by a (notable but) second rank French artist held for nearly 200 years in a (significant but) provincial French museum, so what do you expect. There is some background and a thorough description over four pages here (in French): 411:
How would anyone know that this is a painting and not about Thomas More? A redirect to the artist would merely cause confusion, especially when someone is looking for Thomas more which is the more likely reason to search for the name. It had on average less than one view per day after its creation,
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Your question is a reasonable one but the solution is found by changing the title, not by deletion. I suppose "Painting of Thomas More, Lord High Chancellor of England" would do but I don't know if there is a standard way of doing things. I found
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the latter source in article seems to provide a good amount of coverage. One that I can't access also indicates it might provide decent coverage. I don't feel qualified to judge on better names, so leave that to those better suited.
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spelling, and mention prison. Perhaps this information will help someone to sort it all out. All in all, this is not a notable painting by sourcing, and no regular reader will ever be looking for it.
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compared to Thomas More which is in the thousands, and it is possible that some of the few views it had might be people clicking by mistake looking for Thomas More.
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Changing it to "Painting of Thomas More, Lord High Chancellor of England" doesn't help, people will just confuse it with the famous one
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References do not necessarily indicate notability. Notability requires sources that provide significant coverage per
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Yes, we certainly should be using translated titles of the original work as article titles - as per
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per nom; I can't find any coverage other than a few photos of the artwork. I oppose a redirect to
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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But perhaps retitle the article to reflect how it is about a painting of Thomas More.
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Good explanation, thank you. I don't agree with the policy but will follow it.
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when I was pondering this. Deletion is the last thing we do, not the first.
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No evidence of notability for the painting found in a search, fails
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as suggested. The Lyons fine arts museum is a great collection.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Change the title to show it is a painting, not the person.
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so clearly one of the more important works in his oeuvre.
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Discussion is needed about the recently added references.
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Thomas More in Prison, Visited by his Wife and Daughter
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Thomas More in Prison, Visited by His Wife and Daughter
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