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366:. In many circumstances "Trustees of Columbia University" is just a circumlocution for the university itself, at its highest administrative levels. But I think the position of the trustees themselves within the university's governance should be a notable topic, to the extent that what they do reflects how they are composed and not just the university they administer. Anyone who has interacted with Columbia and had to write out the whole phrase "Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York" must have wondered exactly who the trustees are and why we can't just write "Columbia University", so I think the topic is encyclopedic and of interest. And I think the embedded lists of current and notable trustees (but not all trustees) are the right level of detail. The search for in-depth coverage is made difficult, not because it is missing, but because there are so many documents that merely mention the trustees in passing rather than providing any useful detail about them, and by the fact that the institution most likely to publish things about Columbia University is Columbia University. Nevertheless there is significant historical material on them in the book 559:
article. The OSE argument advanced above is not compulling. David Eppstein's sources would normally be enough for an easy keep for me. However, even as an academic press it's not surprising that Columbia would navel gaze (just as I think we grant notability to some Knowledge topics that we wouldn't otherwise) and so I just don't give those sources the same weight (owing to clear lack of
494:. I don't see what makes these articles notable and not this one; if we're going to delete this one, we should delete all of them. This article could be spruced up a little bit to make it more than just a list, which shouldn't be too difficult, but I think its position as one of the most powerful bodies in the world of higher education makes it warrant its own page. 558:
The redirect should be restored. I see, and saw before I redirected this myself at one point, little indication that the board is discussed in a way that isn't just inherited notability from Columbia University. The information that is needed can be adequately and appropriately included in that
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Every university has a board of trustees that is integral to its growth and history, but it's a bit too directory and unencyclopedic to me to list them in their own article (we don't typically list members of corporate boards of directors either).
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story on the election of the first woman to chair the trustees (or any of the governing boards of the Ivies) in 1989, and one on how the trustees ran the Pulitzer Prizes until 1975. I also found another
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Notability of this list has been questioned several times, recently recreated from a redirect. I don't see this as a likely search term either, so we don't need the redirect in any case. Knowledge is
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I just added a history section from the book "Stand, Columbia" on the history of the board of trustees and will continue adding more material. A controversy section is also included by others
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that I normally would. Also, again, I think the information that makes them notable is can be appropriately and encyclopedicly covered in the main article. Best,
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dismissal controversy, which arguably led to the modern tenure system, as well as in the repression of protests in the late 1960s (as described in
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I also expanded the article with a "controversies" section including some of the independent sources mentioned above. —
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Enough of the list entries are bluelinked that the page has a good claim to serving a navigational role and meeting
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story from 1969 about an (ineffectual) conservative student lawsuit attempting to replace the trustees:
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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also looks likely to be relevant. A dubiously-reliable but in-depth recent source is
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Category:Governing bodies of universities and colleges in the United States
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Harlem vs. Columbia University: Black Student Power in the Late 1960s
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Most peer institutions have similar articles to this one: see
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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It's Better to Build Up: Post-'68 Governance at Columbia
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