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You're right that I'm basically not interested in these radio towers, but I did nominate the articles for deletion in good faith. I just don't see any useful information in any of these articles. The most that anyone can say about any of these things is that they exist and they are located at a
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I'm nominating a whole bunch of radio and TV towers that are less that fewer that 400 meters tall. None of the towers that I am nominating are noteable in any way whatsoever, as far as I can tell. Note that these articles constitute only a tiny percentage of the articles linked to on
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2965:Vegaswikian
2833:CraigMonroe
2817:Ohconfucius
2768:Ohconfucius
2668:per Mgm. —
2553:per above.
2937:Delete all
2911:Descendall
2877:Descendall
2744:Delete all
2720:Kicking222
2650:Delete all
2630:Delete all
2617:Delete all
2607:Descendall
2490:Descendall
1970:WSET Tower
268:WBFF Tower
176:WTVZ Tower
103:oldafdfull
66:WP:ILIKEIT
46:delete all
2780:Sockatume
2728:Merge all
2642:Isotope23
2583:cholmes75
820:RGV Tower
112:Sandstein
54:Sandstein
2999:Lorannus
2953:WP:LOCAL
2951:all per
2890:Oakshade
2865:Oakshade
2752:Eusebeus
2702:Kotobuki
2571:WMMartin
2503:WP:LOCAL
78:WP:LOCAL
70:not keep
2900:22 said
2841:Comment
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2884:Hmm...
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2698:Masago
2694:Futaba
2622:Edison
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2949:Merge
2730:with
2718:. --
2666:Merge
2658:Obina
2567:Merge
2555:MER-C
2551:Merge
2515:Merge
2507:Row97
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2987:Keep
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2796:talk
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2591:Keep
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