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informative. Unless the intent is to remove, for example the "Characters" sections entirely from Knowledge (XXG) articles, a certain amount of synthesis is unavoidable. The "Characters" section, however, should be trimmed to about 1/10th its length, removing commentary that is either quoted from the books, or is cute inventive language intended to sound as if it is. Examples: "the Bursar, a man whose idea of excitement was a soft-boiled egg" and "At UU, he fulfills the role of the one person in the organisation who knows what's going on and why it's happening and who's doing it, although he often wishes he didn't."
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remotely regular basis. Most of my work has consisted of merging smaller articles together to get their number down to a more manageable size. Finding secondary sources for every Discworld article would be a Herculean task, and it's not one I have any interest in taking on alone. I have more important issues to deal with. So. Either delete Knowledge (XXG)'s entire Discworld domain or find those sources yourself. Discworld is the second best-selling fantasy series in the world after Harry Potter. There are bound to be plenty.
311:. A distinguishing feature of the Barlow article is that it provides references, but the references aren't especially encyclopedic. In one place, the actor playing the fictional character is quoted (shouldn't that be the writer or the director?) and in another reference it's a "Coronation Street spokesperson". 284:
I object to unencyclopedic, original research essay language, such as "The University's gargoyles have taken on a life of their own (not that this is anything unusual for Discworld gargoyles in general)." But the article as a whole -- compared to others of its type in Wiki -- is fairly reasonable and
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Agree entirely with Serendipodous. For all that the article lacks references it is neither noticeably inaccurate nor, by the standards of these things, unencyclopedic. If it were to be deleted then pound-to-a-penny a Pratchett fan would come along within days and start an UU article that wouldn't
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I don't know how many TV shows are well-heeled enough to have a spokesperson, and in lieu of them, who is reliable? A similar problem pertains to books. Who besides the author is a reliable reference? And if the author won't talk -- or is dead -- would that mean there are no reliable references? In
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Last time I poked around the article, it was a well-written piece on a fictional piece of real-estate that his been an important part of about a dozen books (at least). And a semi-important part in even more books. Heck, it's even the setting for a half-non-fictional book (The Science of Discworld)
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on this. There are literally scores of Discworld-related articles on Knowledge (XXG), almost none of which have 3rd party citations. Most of them were created early in Knowledge (XXG)'s evolution before notability guidelines had solidified. However, I am the only person who edits them on an even
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Article is flawed but deletion is not the answer. It could possibly be reformatted as a list of Characters. The jokey writing style of Discworld makes it hard to describe anything except in its own fictional rather silly terms. Direct quotes need to be used a bit more for some of the unavoidably
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silly descriptions, more specific citations to each book and page references would help raise the quality too. Deletion is entirely inappropriate, the article needs work not removal. --
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The entire article is plot and original research. This article is a mess, and I don't see any way to fix it. 34k bytes and no references.
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major plot element in very noitable series of fictions. If the fictions were less important, I;d look for a merge.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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terms of outright deletion for lack of being "savable", I'd vote for the Animorphs article, first. Regards,
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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There must be reliable third party sources covering the this topic in order for it to pass
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
107: 103: 99: 163: 341:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 177: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 408:). No further edits should be made to this page. 240:. Just citing to the book itself isn't enough.-- 8: 305:List_of_characters_from_Coronation_Street 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 299:P.S. Also, Blargh29, compare with 24: 309:Peter_Barlow_(Coronation_Street) 303:. And also compare the sterile 1: 391:21:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC) 372:04:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC) 351:00:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC) 325:19:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC) 295:18:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC) 280:09:43, 30 October 2009 (UTC) 250:13:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 232:09:52, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 213:04:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC) 197:22:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC) 60:17:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC) 301:List_of_species_(Animorphs) 425: 401:Please do not modify it. 362:be 10% as good as this. 32:Please do not modify it. 48:. leaning towards keep 259:I'm going to call 44:The result was 353: 74:Unseen University 66:Unseen University 416: 403: 340: 338: 317:Piano non troppo 307:with the linked 287:Piano non troppo 276: 269: 182: 181: 167: 115: 97: 34: 424: 423: 419: 418: 417: 415: 414: 413: 412: 406:deletion review 399: 331: 274: 267: 124: 88: 72: 69: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 422: 420: 411: 410: 394: 393: 374: 355: 354: 339: 328: 257: 256: 255: 254: 253: 252: 216: 215: 185: 184: 121: 68: 63: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 421: 409: 407: 402: 396: 395: 392: 388: 384: 383: 378: 375: 373: 369: 365: 360: 357: 356: 352: 348: 344: 337: 335: 330: 329: 327: 326: 322: 318: 313: 310: 306: 302: 297: 296: 292: 288: 282: 281: 278: 277: 272: 270: 262: 251: 247: 243: 239: 235: 234: 233: 229: 225: 220: 219: 218: 217: 214: 210: 206: 201: 200: 199: 198: 194: 190: 180: 176: 173: 170: 166: 162: 158: 155: 152: 149: 146: 143: 140: 137: 134: 130: 127: 126:Find sources: 122: 119: 113: 109: 105: 101: 96: 92: 87: 83: 79: 75: 71: 70: 67: 64: 62: 61: 57: 53: 52: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 400: 397: 380: 376: 358: 332: 298: 283: 265: 258: 186: 174: 168: 160: 153: 147: 141: 135: 125: 49: 46:no consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 364:Declan Clam 151:free images 261:WP:SOFIXIT 343:Tim Song 334:Relisted 242:Blargh29 189:Blargh29 118:View log 268:Serendi 224:Horkana 157:WP refs 145:scholar 91:protect 86:history 205:Lots42 129:Google 95:delete 387:talk 172:JSTOR 133:books 112:views 104:watch 100:links 16:< 377:Keep 368:talk 359:Keep 347:talk 321:talk 291:talk 246:talk 238:WP:N 228:talk 209:talk 193:talk 165:FENS 139:news 108:logs 82:talk 78:edit 56:talk 51:Cirt 382:DGG 275:ous 179:TWL 116:– ( 389:) 370:) 349:) 323:) 293:) 248:) 230:) 211:) 195:) 159:) 110:| 106:| 102:| 98:| 93:| 89:| 84:| 80:| 58:) 385:( 366:( 345:( 319:( 289:( 244:( 226:( 207:( 191:( 183:) 175:· 169:· 161:· 154:· 148:· 142:· 136:· 131:( 123:( 120:) 114:) 76:( 54:(

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