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790:. This is a poor rationale for deletion. A venue being presently-demolished or mothballed does not erase the notability of its former use. Never has the closure of a sports venue been reason to delete an article. If it genuinely met notability standards while operating, it is hard to see how its closure would change that. 747:
My opinion hasn't changed. The sources are either trivial or give greater focus to QEII park or other buildings in the park. I don't see any evidence that the cricket ground has enough coverage for a stand alone article and QEII article isn't so big as to justify a content split.
532:, not the Village Green venue in particular. Do you have sources that show specific coverage of the Village Green versus the broader complex it was part of? Open to switching my !vote but I need to see some SIGCOV of the specific venue rather than the complex it was part of. 458:
So you are calling into question the integrity of two long-standing editors? Nowhere am I encouraging him to vote, nor expecting him to. It's his subject area. Or shall we not expand articles? I suggest you take back your bad faith accusation.
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Looking through the sources the majority focus on the cricket venue rather than the wider park in general. They do mostly mention the QE2 but I think that's more to define where they are talking about given the generic name of the venue.
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I agree with you that the "no longer notable after the earthquakes" argument is wrong, provided there was notability to begin with, But to the extent the Press articles offer
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once it's notable, it's always notable. It clearly passes GNG and temporary venues can have permanent notability, especially because this wasn't meant to be temporary.
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Relisting. Right now, opinion is divided between Keep and Merge. Could the expansion of the article be evaluated to see if it changes any opinions?
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with enough coverage elsewhere to meet WP:SIGCOV, the "No longer notable after the earthquakes" is an odd argument. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Yes, I wanted to point out the same. Something or someone cannot lose their notability.
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Notability should not be lost once found, but I can't find enough
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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No longer notable after the earthquakes. Appears to fail
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Pinging someone you expect to vote keep is canvassing.
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