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It will soon be evident as to why this is a premature course of action (in the main, because you are questioning the notability of the main characters of a novel that has been read by billions upon billions of Chinese), but such is Knowledge: the requirement of provable notability trumps linguistic
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Can we get someone else familiar with Chinese literature--I am not--to chime in on this? Do we have anyone who can add non-English sources if needed? Regardless, if the fictional work is notable, then the characters should probably be merged either to the work or a character list if the character
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characters meet our notability guidelines while others do not, so I recommend that these character articles be addressed on a case-by-case basis. A search for reliable, secondary sources for Xie Bao reveals an insufficient amount of significant coverage, so this article fails
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The Water Margin characters are up there with Robin Hood and Jesse James as archetypes of heroic outlaws. There are famously 108 of them - the nine dozen heroes - and we have summary level coverage of this at
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Warden's comments are an excellent rationale: the characters are important. And even if a particular character is not notable, then there should still be a merge to a list, so deletion is inappropriate.
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systemic biases; the earnestness of superficial lots jolts the rest into counteracting foisted counterproductivity.
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A proposed deletion of this article was contested with the suggestion that if this article is deleted, all other
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It does not appear to me that Warden's comments have addressed the concerns raised in the nomination.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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character articles should also be deleted. I think it quite possible that some
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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is all that Knowledge's notability guidelines allow.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
talk page
deletion review
Martijn Hoekstra
talk
14:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Xie Bao
Xie Bao
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Google
books
news
scholar
free images
WP refs
FENS
JSTOR
TWL
Water Margin
Knowledge's notability guidelines for fictional characters
Neelix

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