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577:. That is kind of harsh there. Her major awards (i.e. Best Actress), for Japan's biggest porn awards, seems like the proverbial "elephant in the room", that is being dismissed at this AfD, because it gets in the way of "can't find any en-RS". My understanding of AfD, is that we are "obliged" to look for foreign language RS for foreign language cases? I am not sure that anybody above has done this for Japanese script. A Best Actress for a major western porn award (e.g. 452:, the English coverage on her is absolutely awful. I could find essentially nothing, searching for both her common names. I can't help but think she must have some fantastic Japanese coverage somewhere, and I feel uneasy recommending delete unless that avenue of research has been somewhat explored by an editor with such a knack. Concerning reputable Japanese media, I'm only familiar with a few national newspapers. 581:), would have RS for a GNG (winners of lesser AVN Awards may not). She could have lots of Japanese-RS? I am not convinced that we are trying to get the right outcome here and give this BLP a proper hearing? Somebody went to the trouble of making this BLP, which is well constructed and seems referenced; we owe them that their work is fairly reviewed. Do we have any Japanese-Editors who can check her Jap-RS? 543:, twice (which has its own WP-article). It is hard to believe that such an award winner would be un-notable? She is a Japanese-only film actress (never appeared in Western film), and therefore all her refs are in Japanese (which I can't search). 210: 614:
Further participation is needed to develop a clear consensus following additional discussion; also, some additional time is reasonable to permit a more effective search of sources in the subject's native language
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exist, but unfortunately nobody has been able to actually produce them, so the argument for deletion is the stronger one.
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In other words a BLP that fails the GNG and all you have is assertion and tired depreciated appeals to fake notability.
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Assertions of major contributions for passing WP:ANYBIO or WP:ENT are not attributed to reliable sources. GNG needs
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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as the award listed ("Best actress at the Pink Grand Prix") is based on a fan poll.
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A BLP that lacks sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail; fails
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major contribution in her field, and meets GNG through major award.
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awards ≠ notability. General notability obviously isn’t there.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Seems to be popular Japanese porn star with awards.
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significant coverage from reliable secondary sources
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