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422: 566:, Henan) is better known with lots of archaeological discoveries, and is the one covered in The Cambridge History of Ancient China. 英國 (in modern Anhui) is lesser known. Confusingly, both states are pronounced Ying in modern Mandarin and both were conquered by Chu. The original article was about the one in Anhui. - 371:
has specific mentions of the state (pp. 312, 407-8), in terms of archaeological significance and as part of the Zhou-era expansions and enfeoffment processes into Eastern China. The state is mentioned in the writings of
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Done. Since the article has now morphed into the topic of 應, I've removed all info about 英 and adjusted the wikidata link. There really need to be two separate articles, similar to
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to the present article seems to me to be appropriate (though I will be happy to revise my opinion if someone with better Chinese than mine can renovate and reference the article).
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article has been HEYMANNed although it would seem it's now about a different subject. I'd withdraw but I don't think I can after the discussion is already rolling. So,
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The article is a poorly written stub currently, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved. I can't find any information supporting the current confusing claims of a
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Created by a now indeffed user back in 2013. No sources, terrible grammar. Possibly a notable subject, should still be completely blanked and then possibly redone
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thanks for your expansion, but please be careful not to conflate the two different states both romanized as Ying.
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Can you dig up enough material for a stand-alone article, or do you think it should it just be redirected to
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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connection to the state, but it was most certainly extant for at least part of the
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do contain some text describing origins of Ying, though more as a clan name:
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seems extreme here since only a little work is required to repair.--
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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problems with the article as it currently stands, but
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