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1332:)Thank you for your feedback. Here are a few articles that are written primarily about Zack from credible sources and establish him as a leading voice in next generation sports media. I'd agree with you about INHERITED, if he was simply an employee. But he co-founded the company and launched a league of great notoriety.
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Thank you for the feedback. Please explain how being the co-founder of a major digital media company, and the creation of a groundbreaking basketball that has been featured in almost all the major
American media outlets, does not make someone notable? Also, the removal of the Overtime Sports page
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of the subject. I have not been successful. The coverage all seems to focus on the company, and the only information about Mr. Weiner that could be summarized from it would amount to a limited résumé. I still think this article should be deleted. Beyond that, I still think the construction of a
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My analysis of the current references finds no usable in-depth sources to establish that the subject (Mr. Weiner) meets the requirements for a stand-alone article in mainspace. Most of the reference articles are about the company, Overtime; not about the co-founder. I don't see a benefit for
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I have closely read the wikipedia criteria for new page creation and have spent time with wikipedia help desk and the normal protocol is for the editors to offer suggestions on how to improve this piece instead of just asking for deletion.
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There is no puffery in the article. And there isn't inherited notability from the company - he founded the company and a professional basketball league. So I'll ask editors how to improve this page, instead of having it be deleted.
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No biographical information that isn't already mentioned in the sources above. Despite the title, most of the article is about the company.
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I hope these help and that you'll reconsider your vote.
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