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475:- This proposal of deletion is a bad idea. I wrote on the talk page that I considered (too) there was some pov-fork and PoV issues in the article BUT the way to solve this is certainly not in deleting whole JaapBoBo's work... Currently (but it should be discussed) I think the best title for an article on the topic would be 218:
to say what the Zionists thought for God's sake, everything nearly is CD Smith who isn't terribly a notable professor so in effect we're basically reading that person's book, same with Flapan, Nasalha, that this article is really just copy and paste from their book, to the point where we can't even
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article) which could be used as a bit of a hiding ground for either PoV, or large sections lifted from books without comprehension or editing; leading indeed to potential concerns about copyvio too. (While we're at it, and in case this gets worked on rather than deleted, I'm uncomfortable with its
259:. It reads more like an essay than a Knowledge (XXG) article, and it gives too much space to a small group of authors who are mostly on one side. But there is nothing wrong with the concept of the article and with a fair amount of effort it could turn out ok. 84: 183: 234: 77: 111: 106: 115: 98: 177: 381:
SYNTH, ESSAY. I could not find a similar article in the cats attached to this article. An article about 'attitudes'? Seems like an easy way to push POV in one direction or another. --
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premise/definition, too: that " 'Palestinian Arabs' refers to the non-Jewish population of Palestine at the...time". It shouldn't; there were non-Arabs in that population.) –
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this article is extreme POV pushing, probably cut and paste, or maybe even simply attributing things to people.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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know if their books were read. The article adds little to Knowledge (XXG), and is really just blatant POV.
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Note that this article under an earlier name was proposed for deletion in 2008 with the result
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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referring to 2 books used in the bibliography of the article (Flapan, Simha, 1979,
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Much of the stuff in here could simply be used on a Zionism or anti-Zionism page.
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Articles for deletion/Zionist attitudes toward the Palestinian Arabs
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I still think this page is extremely POV, uses sources like
48:. strong opinions to delete, mild opinions to keep. Please 139: 128: 124: 120: 190: 204: 95:Zionist and Palestinian Arab attitudes before 1948 68:Zionist and Palestinian Arab attitudes before 1948 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 537:). No further edits should be made to this page. 319:list of Palestine-related deletion discussions 8: 283:list of Israel-related deletion discussions 313: 277: 493:Jews and Arabs under the British Mandate 317:: This debate has been included in the 281:: This debate has been included in the 477:Zionists and Arabs in Mandate Palestine 82: 75: 52:and aggressively address the issues. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 74: 24: 485:Zionism and the Arabs, 1882-1948 1: 62:07:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC) 481:Zionism and the Palestinians 247:It hasn't improved much tho. 505:11:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC) 468:07:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC) 447:22:57, 28 August 2009 (UTC) 414:23:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 391:18:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC) 374:12:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC) 355:13:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 342:07:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 306:07:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 264:05:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC) 242:05:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC) 229:09:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC) 554: 487:) and also to Tom Segev, 530:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 489:One Palestine, Complete 483:- Gorny, Yosef, 1987, 73:AfDs for this article: 491:, whose subtitle is 426:essay, a clear-cut 216:Norman Finkelstein 44:The result was 512:comment added by 404:comment added by 344: 322: 308: 286: 545: 532: 521: 440: 435: 416: 371: 340: 323: 304: 287: 257:needs major work 209: 208: 194: 142: 136: 118: 34: 553: 552: 548: 547: 546: 544: 543: 542: 541: 535:deletion review 528: 507: 473:Keep but rename 438: 433: 399: 369: 328: 292: 151: 138: 109: 93: 90: 71: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 551: 549: 540: 539: 523: 522: 470: 449: 417: 393: 376: 357: 345: 311: 309: 275: 272: 271: 267: 266: 249: 248: 212: 211: 148: 89: 88: 87: 81: 80: 72: 70: 65: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 550: 538: 536: 531: 525: 524: 519: 515: 514:81.244.177.22 511: 506: 502: 498: 494: 490: 486: 482: 478: 474: 471: 469: 465: 461: 457: 453: 450: 448: 445: 444: 441: 436: 430:violation. -- 429: 425: 421: 418: 415: 411: 407: 403: 397: 394: 392: 388: 384: 380: 377: 375: 372: 365: 361: 358: 356: 353: 349: 346: 343: 338: 335: 332: 327: 326:Malik Shabazz 320: 316: 312: 310: 307: 302: 299: 296: 291: 290:Malik Shabazz 284: 280: 276: 274: 273: 269: 268: 265: 262: 258: 254: 251: 250: 246: 245: 244: 243: 240: 236: 231: 230: 226: 222: 217: 207: 203: 200: 197: 193: 189: 185: 182: 179: 176: 173: 170: 167: 164: 161: 157: 154: 153:Find sources: 149: 146: 141: 134: 130: 126: 122: 117: 113: 108: 104: 100: 96: 92: 91: 86: 83: 79: 76: 69: 66: 64: 63: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 529: 526: 492: 488: 484: 480: 472: 451: 443:(yada, yada) 431: 419: 406:72.229.3.163 395: 378: 359: 347: 333: 314: 297: 278: 256: 252: 232: 215: 213: 201: 195: 187: 180: 174: 168: 162: 152: 46:no consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 508:—Preceding 400:—Preceding 360:Mild delete 221:Tallicfan20 178:free images 422:. One big 456:WikiBooks 510:unsigned 424:WP:SYNTH 402:unsigned 370:Kieran T 352:Ynhockey 337:contribs 301:contribs 145:View log 497:Ceedjee 364:Zionism 348:Comment 184:WP refs 172:scholar 112:protect 107:history 50:Be bold 452:Delete 439:crewer 420:Delete 396:Delete 379:Delete 156:Google 140:delete 116:delete 54:tedder 460:Nudve 458:. -- 428:WP:OR 383:Shuki 199:JSTOR 160:books 143:) – ( 133:views 125:watch 121:links 16:< 518:talk 501:talk 464:talk 434:brew 410:talk 387:talk 331:talk 315:Note 295:talk 279:Note 261:Zero 255:but 253:Keep 239:Zero 235:keep 225:talk 192:FENS 166:news 129:logs 103:talk 99:edit 58:talk 206:TWL 520:) 503:) 495:. 466:) 412:) 389:) 324:— 321:. 288:— 285:. 237:. 227:) 186:) 131:| 127:| 123:| 119:| 114:| 110:| 105:| 101:| 60:) 516:( 499:( 462:( 408:( 385:( 339:) 334:· 329:( 303:) 298:· 293:( 223:( 210:) 202:· 196:· 188:· 181:· 175:· 169:· 163:· 158:( 150:( 147:) 137:( 135:) 97:( 56:(

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