1137:-- This category should only be a parent category. sampling 3 or 4 of those listed suggested that it deals with American musicians who in accordance with the "melting pot" principle have a wide variety of ethnic ancestry. Non-American racial categories have recently been converted to the form "Booian people of fooian origin". The person who organised this has evidently balked at the complexities of tackling Americans. I think we have also tended to delete "Booian musicians of fooian origin" as overcategorisation, being a triple intersection, unless it has a substanial population. In other words, we do not normally allow categorisation of dual ethnicity by profession. If we did, this would be a useful parent category. The problem is of people with three or four ethnicities and this category. The whole tree needs major pruning. Note
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